"I would say your wife must be a hell of a woman to put up with a moron like you."   That sort of shows maybe I was not clear.  I am simply saying that my wife is a great woman and would most likely make someone happy for the rest of their lives.  She had me happy for a number of years.  I am not in any way saying she didn't.  She just is not the one for me anymore...I think.  Listen do I have my dounbts at times about all this?  You bet.  As KP has told you I backed away from the relationship more than once.  I thought that I must be wrong and I should just be happy with what I have. In other words my wife is one hell of a woman and I am a moron to not see it.  I need passion though, and she has not got any.  I once tested a theory and I waited her out 3 months before I gave in and initiated a lil bedroom fun.                   3 MONTHS!!!!  And she told me that she wondered when I would ask.  Did she ever think to maybe take it on herself to just attack?  I have done it and she rarely ever does.  I need romance.  Listen, I am a sentimental romantic, but that part of me has no outlet w/ her.  Flowers, cards, phone calls just to say I love you are "nice" in her words.  But that is all they are is "nice".   KP gives me passion, she loves the small lil things I do to show her I care...I feel like I am not throwing romance into a blackhole where it is seen, noted, and then we move on...like I did nothing.....                                                                       She had a man in her life for years that loved her, she loved him and they wold have been fine except he died.  So I am NEVER saying that she has no good points, in fact the last entry was an attempt to say just that...she is not all bad.  ..... more to come