Doesn't suprise me that's how petty politics have become or maybe they've always been that petty they are after all politics, hehe it's almost Latin for many blood suckers.

It surprizes me. So much so that I had to check it repeatedly before I believed. Even then I was not completely comfortable. It was only when I read the government's denial that I was totally persuaded.

When contemplating what people, especially politicians, might do I apply my Boy Scout training from oh so many years ago, I expect the worst and hope/work for the best so when I'm surprised it's usually with a smile on my face... every once in awhile they expand my comprehension of the terms atrocity & travesty but, it's blessedly rare.

The only thing I can't "wrap my head around" about the whole thing is... why, "We the People" (or however, it's phrased in each of the charters of each of the rancid carcasses of the world's 'democratic' powers) keep taking their crap. I know the answer "It's not bad enough yet" but, it still boggles my mind.

I honestly think our revolutionary forbearers would climb out of their graves & slap the taste out of our mouths were they capable of it. LoL Plato, Fitzwalter, Jefferson & Robespierre riding through the cities of Europe and North America with a cricket bat in one hand & a pate saw in the other. repeating the mantra "You obviously aren't using that brain or spine and they look tasty."

Britain has been built on immigration, from around 55BC. However, that said, until very recently the pattern of immigration (other than armed invasion, of course) seemed to be:

Ethnic group persecuted
Ethnic group offered a haven in Britain
Ethnic group bring cultural innovations - clothing, craft, food, music etc - but busily integrate
Ethnic group merge into a slightly enlarged and enriched society

The Hugenots are a perfect example of this process. However, there now seems to be a pattern that goes

Random group follows economic opportunity
Random group jealously guards and partitions its cultural baggage
Random group forms seperate enclave and becomes divisive.

It is this latter pattern that the Labour policy seems to favour.

That's my issue too, hey anyone who wants to come, to in my case the US, and integrate woo-hoo happy to have you but, if you come looking to just send money back home and carve out yet another special interest group that never integrates (this strikes me as some form of piracy)... those I'd just as soon stayed home since they obviously favor that system to ours and only came for the cash.

i agree, freakin anglo-saxon wankers, england for celts first!!!

Why you wanna pick on the Saxons, what so much better about the Normans, or Huguenots, & what makes a Moor more palatable than an AEngle which is the namesake of England can you imagine Celtionia?

a modern briton saying britain should be for the british is like a modern american saying america is only for americans; both countries were built by wave after wave of immigrants.

its akin to a race of martians invading earth, killing off the native earthlings, and then getting pissed off when saturnians start immigrating to earth with crys of "earth for martians only!"

heh ayup, my native ancestors probably didn't think we'd remodel & take over murdering millions of them in the process. But what he's saying is they come here because their land doesn't offer the advantages theirs does, it's cool for them to bring their food & greetings, their clothing & housewares, their social customs & holidays even their language but, please try to learn ours & use it in public & absolutely don't screw with the way we conduct our government or our social customs after all the way we do those 2 things is why they want to be here.

"I think we'd still be welcome brothers to our native hosts had we stripped down and enjoyed the childlike freedom of living a tribal lifestyle but, we were different and forced our difference on our hosts now our hosts are almost no more(this century is likely to bury the last full blood Inuit, Cree & Eskimo),

" there's a lesson in that, so unless we are content to be over run we must defend the posts of our society that we feel are the best & as screwed up as it is in practice we, meaning the US, Britain, & some other, established world powers obviously have the best governments available so, when some bushman or refugee tells me they do it like this back home I try to not be condescending when I say but, "here" we do it like this & I try to limit my corrections to issues of fairness & procedure.

I'm gonna go out on a limb when I interpret for Steve but, when we say integrate we mean become one of us, you came to what IS our house because you like the idea of living in OUR house; please don't muck up the drapes, damage the furniture, screw with the thermostat in my fridge or park on the lawn & drain your fluids into the grass but feel free to bring your cultural gifts of art, food & industry. Just remember you came to be with us so honor that intent by following it up by becoming one of us.

I wouldn't emigrate to Canada & once a citizen lobby that since many Canadians are US citizens by birth or descent shouldn't we call our Parliament a Congress to be more sensitive to their culture, I wouldn't move to Quebec or Paris without learning a few hundred words or so of French, I wouldn't goto Malaysia and expect the same laws as in the US. So why on Earth are they right in coming to the US or Britain & expecting to be able to make it like their home? Would you tolerate someone in your home telling you that not only are things going to be changing, all their relatives are on the way to make sure they do.

Immigrate, Integrate, Propagate
this procedure produces a melting pot that gets all the "flavors" of the various contributive cultures and none of the "dross" because once immersed in the host culture it becomes apparent where it's simply superior & where your historical culture may have something to offer.

What else is new? Invasion by immigration is the new warfare.

I think you mean the oldest warfare, didn't the Jews happen upon the river Jordan and cross over settling into the task of removing and replacing all indigenous peoples?