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 Christian Arithmetic

How many gods make one?

According to monotheistic religions, there is only one god and this is an essential article of faith. Indeed, in Islam, for instance, the breaking of this article of faith is the only unpardonable sin. Similarly, the first of the Judaic god's laws asserted this principle. And, it seems a rather simple notion: one equals one; nothing complex or difficult here.

Yet Christianity, a self-proclaimed monotheistic religion, has certainly found the arithmetic difficult to grasp. To begin with, in order to distinguish itself from the sect within Judaism known as the Way, it had to posit the divinity of Jesus. This was the start of no end of intellectual problems, confusions and difficulties, which have had to be met by endless sophistries, sleights of hand, and outright denials of the plain meanings of words.

An immediate problem was, of course, that Jesus had been a flesh and blood human being, born of woman. This was undeniable. Yet he was god. Oh, dear. You can almost hear the opportunities for argument, dispute and bitter conflict, already.

Then there was the problem that he had been executed by the Romans as a common criminal. Better turn this into some form of religious dispute with the holy men of the Judaic religion and assert that whilst he died, as man, he also, as god, rose again.

However, there was also the problem that his followers, the people who knew him and would be able to tell of what he had said (for some inexplicable reason, this god incarnate had failed to take the simple precaution of writing down what he wanted people to do) were fearful and scattered. Enter stage left, another god, who would fill them with enthusiasm and resolve: the Holy Spirit. This brings the tally so far to three.

Returning to the problem of Jesus' humanity, it was decided to resolve this problem by claiming that his mother was a virgin, eternally and for ever immaculate (this last is indicative of their thinking about sexual relations, which is strange, as presumably from their perspective, sex is an expression of god's will). This elevated Mary from the level of common humanity. And over time, the promotions have come thick and fast, with her never dying, but being assumed unto Heaven, having the power to suspend the natural laws of the universe and intercede for the remission of sins, making her at least a demi-deity if not an actually fully fledged god.

Next we come to the issue of the angels. According to the mythology, the devil was a fine angel, more or less equal to god and exceptionally proud of his prowess. And it was this that led to his conflict with god and his banishment along with his supporters from god's presence. This clearly implies the angels are gods. But before reaching that conclusion, let us consider for a moment the relationship between god and the devil as related in the Book of Job. Here we see clearly two deities engaged in friendly rivalry, who with no concern for the welfare of mere people, wager for the mere pleasure of winning. This is a representation of equals, putting the devil, and by extension all angels, on a par with god.

By now the tally has outreached the limits of our knowledge: we only know that there are a great many gods. But, unfortunately, we have not finished yet; not by a long chalk. For it is clear that the nature of the divine is also attributed to dead saints, who can perform miracles and forgive sins. And it is not only the dead saint who can do this, but even their supposed bones and other such grisly relics.

So, how many gods make one? The answer it would appear is thousands and thousands; gods beyond our capacity to take a simple census apparently make one, according to Christian arithmetic, which is a special branch of knowledge, available only to those who have faith. As someone once said: 'I only know what I believe.'

    Posted by stevehayes13 on 2009-10-29 02:53:57 | Rating: | Views: 79
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It would indeed appear that Christianity, and especially Roman Catholicism, is more accurately described as Polytheistic. The argument that God is the underlying source of all divine power is seriously diminished by the fundamental acceptance of the Trinity, which you point out, which also mirrors quite closely the trinity at the heart of Hinduism.
Posted by  Perigo_Minas  on 2009-10-29 04:28:30 
  
(Hinduism) which claims to be polytheistic.

Actually, it is strange that a polytheistic religion should claim to be montheistic. After all, all the problems which monotheists are constantly having to try to spirit away (eg, the problem of suffering) simply do not arise in a polytheistic system. Strange indeed.
Posted by  stevehayes13  on 2009-10-29 04:34:46 
  
The entire concept of religion is immoral anyway. Anybody who has faith is basicly saying they are a lier. They constantly lie to themselves to keep their bubble of comfort alive. People who know much more than themselves are constantly telling them that this is all a delusion that is unhealthy for us as a spiecies and they have the arrogance to scoff at these people with no evidence what-so-ever.

I mean the story of Jesus's resurection is a joke, the four deciples whom witnessed the event couldnt even agree where the sun was in the sky, they could not agree with what they saw, one saw two angels, one saw one, another saw two teenagers dressed in sheets and the Roman guards saw nothing at all. The entire world went into complete darkness from broad daylight to night for three hours and NO-BODY decided to record this phenomina in an age of science and history. The dead apparently rose from the ground in a zombie apocolypse style event and spoke with people and NO-BODY recorded what they said ......... Hmmmmmmmmmm sounds like BOLLOCKS to me!
Posted by  Phat  on 2009-10-29 06:10:09 
  
So I'm a liar? Simply because I believe that love is the motive of any decent act. Do you have any idea how many differing eye witness accounts there are of the events on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. I suppose that means nothing hit the Twin Towers and they're still there we just can't see them being victims of mass hysteria? No 2 eye witnesses agree on all points unless they're lying is the common wisdom of the detective.
I had really come to expect better from you than such obvious hatred.
Posted by  Munkyman  on 2009-10-29 14:46:32 
  
I do not think that what happed to the twin towers had anything to do with religion.
I think it had more to do with foreign policy.
"I suppose that means nothing hit the Twin Towers and they're still there we just can't see them being victims of mass hysteria?"
I can not remember how many Iraqi's hijack planes on 9/11. Or what invading Afghanistan had anything to do with 9/11.
But you have lost some civil liberty's as a result of 9/11.
Do you want to kill all responsible. They are already dead (suicide bombers).
Or would you like to find out why some people thought that killing innocent civilians in a barbaric and inhumane way was the only option open to them.
Have these people being threatening us in the past.
Why have we invaded two country's and lost so much civil liberty's yet we are not any closer to finding out the truth.
Its time we acted in the right way. Not to blindly join in a knee jerk reaction and be oblivious of the consequences.

And getting back to the original question. I anm the only god that is needed.
AS far as i am concerned i am god. And i think that you are god.
You should only believe in one true god. Yourself.
Your morals are right. Use them wisely instead of giving others the moral right to murder on your behalf. Because that is what your goverment does.
Posted by  quietcount  on 2009-11-03 19:31:32 
  
what bothers me more than the accounts themselves is that they were written over thirty years after his death- i have trouble remembering what i did 2 weeks ago last thursday, let alone being able to recite, verbatim, word-fer-word a conversation i had over a decade ago. people like to point to the 'exact' words 'he' used- really? i think to myself, tell me the exact words you used yesterday morning with your [blank].
Posted by  bloodintheeyes  on 2009-10-29 20:37:19 
  
That's my whole reason for not quoting verses, the chapters tend to make reasonable sense but, individual verses can be quite odd. I can remember movie quotes from almost 30 years ago. "This is what you get for spilling paint in the garage at my house." John Bender 'the Breakfast Club' so the assertion that it can't be done is not very strong. My father still sings songs he learned over 40 years ago.
Posted by  Munkyman  on 2009-10-29 21:01:55 
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