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 Some prophet you are.
Apparently Abraham Lincoln decided that there is one god for our nation. Or as patcondell from youtube suggests Abraham believed that 'one size fits all' or in this case rather, 'one god fits all'.  Obviously, if that was the case A.L. was mistaken.

It is rather interesting that Abraham often made refrences to God and/or quoted the bible during his speeches.  Well, thats not the interesting part.  The part that boggles me is that he never officaly joined a church.  It is also noted that he wrote a manuscript that challenged christianity but a good friend burned the material to protect Lincoln. (Though a piece of information like that would be difficult to verify as you can imagine.)  And to top it off, the existance of this manuscrapt was challenged by Mentor Graham, an alleged eyewitness.

"...I know that the Lord is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord's side." The Inner Life of Abraham Lincoln: Six Months at the White House by Francis B. Carpenter (Lincoln, Nebraska, University of Nebraska Press, 1995), p. 282. Also, Recollections of Abraham Lincoln by Ward Hill Lamon (Lincoln, Nebraska, University of Nebraska Press, 1994), p. 91. 

"...that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain; that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom; and that this government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, November 19, 1863.



I must wonder how much of an influence A.L. contributed to the fact that, really, our government is based on religion. (Thus I posted the poll)

A youtube video actually inspired me to write this blog.
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell
(That is just the user, not that video itself, though if you would like to watch the video it is titled God The Psycho)

And please do not take this as any form of disrespect or crudness to any religous readers. I mean no harm.  I am however interested in what everyones take on this is. 


Regards,
SA (sacrificedangel)
    Posted by sacrificedangel on 2009-04-06 02:16:30 | Rating: | Views: 101
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Hi sacrificedangel,
Although I voted "no" on you poll, He absolutely did his part in carrying the torch, so to speak.
I believe that people wanted this freedom to worship God to exist before A. L.
Back then, life was running at a much slower pace and many were poor.
Poeple were good people mostly. That didn't desire much more than their basic needs being met.
They beleived that too many posessions would make one forget God and what God had done for them. So they were very content. They more than likely have it right.
It seems the more people have these days, the more they voice their hatered towards God and His people; and loudly!

The Bible says that in the last days, people would become totally unthankful.
I would venture to say that we have arrived at that door.

I think, because of the conviction in their concience at that time, It seemed very resonable to allow God into Government. (Like: God forbid that we ever become unthankful).
The Bible also says that in the last days, people's "concience will be seared, as like with a hot iron".
Look how many today beleive their should be no accountablity or consequince for anything one should partake in, which was once looked upon by the majority as sin.

Not too many opposed God in Government through the years really. Not compared to the crazy number that does today.

I think Lincoln wanted to make it a point that he didn't belong to a church. But I also beleive that he felt he ALREADY belonged to a church. Not an established religion, but he beleived the Bible when he read that God's church is the beleivers of God.
They were people delivered from the hand of tyranny. In that place, they were told how they could worship. They knew that wasn't right. Do we still know it?

United States of America has grown for 200 years and prospered and we have enjoyed it. But it is rooted in the things of God.

If we decide to transplant outside of God (which we are in the process of doing), we will not prosper........ but we will wither and die!

Why tear down a good thing? We must try to keep God in Government, but not governed by Government! Thank you for the space to say this and for taking the time to read it. Great post!
Posted by  tarabbac1  on 2009-04-06 03:00:05 
  
Thank you taranbac1! I wasn't sure if I would get any feedback on this post at all. It's not that I believe it's so horrible having our gocernement based on religion and god because I do not have a problem with it so to speak. I just thing things could be illegal for better reasons. I just consider this alternative because not all people are followers of JC (Jesus Christ) and I believe the system may run more smoothly without all of the 'baggage'

Regards,
SA
Posted by  sacrificedangel  on 2009-04-06 10:22:42 
  
hi again s.a.,
I love to communicate, but it is a hit and miss thing here at Thoughts I guess.
I wonder if you could be more pacific about "baggage".
I will say that I do know that our way of law is after the model layed out in the Bible when Moses first experienced this form of government.
Moses had millions of people to deal with and many disputes and questions concerning the law of God that was given to him.

His father-in-law seen that Moses couldn't handle all of these people alone, so he suggested to Moses to sit people under him who could handle sections of people, and then others under them that could handle a lesser number of people and so on.

We also self-inherited the ten commandments as the bases of our belief of good law practice that carries within it's structure, judgement and mercy.

In the new testoment of the Bible, Jesus summed up the law of Moses by saying, "Love God with all of your heart, soul and mind and love your nieghbor as yourself".
So the early forefathers adopted this as "a meant to be good for all" solution; they too having to conflict with the Bible.

As we learned later, we realize now that the forefathers didn't totally beleive in the Bible or the would not have killed, bought and worked slaves and many other offences against the teachings of Jesus.
Unfortunately, it is about too late to convince people that that teachings of Jesus wasn't the cause for their offences, but it was fear and listening to the stong voices of those who feared for life.
No wonder the Bible say "fear is not faith, and whatever is not faith is sin".

Appearantly! We can see that these are the sort of results we see of fear verses trust. God made it clear that we could trust Him. They did not though.
Instead, out of fear, they took matters into their own hands.

Having the lack of guidence then resulted in listening to those of a decieved fearful heart , also many of these people had evil intent, because they forsook the conviction of the heart. How else could they make decicions about slavery and such?
Posted by  tarabbac1  on 2009-04-06 17:28:38 
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