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    Posted by propasphere on 2009-06-18 16:36:16 | Rating: | Views: 50
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your facts are right, and i aplaud your conclusions
Posted by  searcher5000  on 2009-06-18 16:45:41 
  
You've got a point. I do not wish to take anything away from the brave troops, american or british who are out in the middle east - and i feel sorry for the mothers and fathers of sons, daughters lost in the conflicts over there. But why are the british and americans in afghanistan? Since history began, no-one has managed to tame afghan. We got our arses kicked in the 1800's, the whole might of the russian army - whose just over the border - got whooped. So why are we back there. Do we learn nothing from history? I know we want to stand against terrorism, but lets make sure the aims are moral and not money oriented.
Posted by  Rockerroy666  on 2009-06-18 16:50:29 
  
A well disguised attack on your country hiding behind words like 'my country' and 'our'.
Posted by  GovMisdirection  on 2009-06-18 17:09:49 
  
This is my country, and ours. My ancestors fought in the revolutionary war, war of 1812, war between the states, spanish-american war, world wars 1 and 2, as well as my brother in Iraq.

When my country starts spilling blood, unlike others who close their eyes and nod in support of the bloodbath, I open them very widely and consider the repurcussions. I lead the government and I am not its subject, rather than the reverse. I love this country. Being pro-war or pro-global dominion is not a reflection of patriotism at all. It is a reflection of a bully mentality. War (or pigeon-shooting from a helicopter) is something that should never be taken lightly. Taking human lives is serious business. The founders of our nation distrusted big government and did not meddle in foreign wars. We are so far from that now. We have been neo-conned into thinking that taking a 180 degree turn from our founders' intent makes us "patriotic," but THEIR patriotism was unmatched, despite their fervent rejection of foreign interventionism. They understood that criticizing their country was a reflection of their deep love for America. The warmongering neo-con allegiance is to the new world order, not to this nation or her people.
Posted by  propasphere  on 2009-06-18 17:51:20 
  
You are right when you say, "All wars are economic ... ", and many people believe the U.S. is in Iraq for the oil; if that was the case, we would take the oil, and control the oil wells, but that's not the reason, because there is something even more valuable there - Opium.

It takes money to fund a revolution, and that money must be untracable, in order to have covert revolutionary secrecy. Both Korea and Vietnam were more about opium than about democracy, because that is where most of the opium in the world was coming from. The CIA involves itself in the opium trade by manipulating where the poppies are grown. Temporarily, after the Vietnam conflict, the opium trade moved to Marsailes, France, and then later to the Middle East.

The opium underground is a rich with undocumented monies. Have you ever heard of a person or a company who buys wholesale opium legally overseas ... of course not! Perhaps, pharmacuetical companies have people who deal in opium procured by other means, but they are not involved in growing it! The opium is not grown here in the U.S., at least not enough to supply all the demand.

Diamonds are another source of revenue for militant revolutionaries to fund their projects, but diamonds do not have the blackmarket demand like opium does, because there are no junkies buying diamonds on the street corner to supplement the trade, once all other "legitimate" sales have been exhausted.

Many people are not aware of this as being a source of revenue for government overthrows and revolutions, but it surely is. Think of the past military conflicts the U.S. has been involved in and look closely where the opium trade is thriving at that time, and where it moves to after conflict begins, and how long it takes before conflict erupts in the new location. It's all about ("untracable") money!

The fact is, the CIA is in the drug business!

- Thom

Posted by  Hugh_Pizmehoff  on 2009-06-18 17:35:13 
  
Thom right now, they are selling drugs for cheaper than bread in Iran. They have been for the past 30 years. Islamic Regime has kept everyone high to make sure there was no revolution. Opium is everywhere in Iran. Drug addicts,prostitution, inflation, unemployment, poverty are rampant right now in Iran, which is funny since Iran is one of the countries in the world that has some of the most resources, go figure. :) Thom I'm surprised, there are not too many people who have any clue what is going on with that...you must have some good experience under your belt!
Posted by  Dancer78  on 2009-06-21 16:03:15 
  
Wow! Their drugs can help mellow people out? Why don't we send our drugs there then, and bring their drugs here. Would it reduce our crime rate??

Seriously, you have a point. Vodka has traditionally been used to keep Russians too drunk to care.

Obviously the people of Iran don't think it is going in the wrong direction, or they would have elected someone else. If the "protesters" decide to "protest" against the religious leadership, then I will cheer them on, because that is where the problem lies. Then there can be real change, and the democracy of Iran flourish without their theocratic influence. The Persian people are smart, beautiful people with a rich culture and heritage, one that includes the FIRST advocate of monotheism in Zoroaster. I would love to see the Persian people rise up from the ashes and be their own people again, not merely serfs under a theocracy or the new world order. hence my opposition of the west imposing its consumeristic, anti-culture nonsense down people's throats.
Posted by  propasphere  on 2009-06-21 16:58:51 
  
Wow Thom, that is a different perspective I hadn't thought of. Frankly, the Iraq invasion in my opinion was all about strategic location and planting more bases.

It sure is nice to have intelligent comments from all of you here!
Posted by  propasphere  on 2009-06-18 23:43:16 
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