Before I begin posting these e-mails, I have to tell you that I have not responded to any of these e-mails. This has been going on for over 5 years now, and I have well documented everything. At the very beginning when it started I e-mailed her 2-3 times in responce to some of the stuff that she wrote. These e-mails however were not responded to and not in responce to anything I had written previously. NO I did NOT edit, that really IS how terrible her spelling is. If ANYONE has any interest in helping, I do have the original e-mails with full headers. (JUST A FEW E-MAILS HERE)
Oh _________ you are soooo funny!!!!!! You a professional handler LOL LOL!!!!! I'm sorry to inform you but a professional handler is someone who is PAID to campaign a certain dog, NOT someone who goes into Juniors and holds dogs for other owners at ringside LOL. I also love the way you put the new owners of your shepherds down to look like they were the ones that asked you to handle their dogs, when really you owned most of those dogs when you showed them in those pictures. You are too FUNNY !!!! Everyone that I talked to at _________, also Jenna and Ellan and the other dog handlers had such a laugh over you site. Your mother was the only one that said that you were a good handler, only because she needed you to handle her dogs for her. Even Tervor was embarrassed the way you showed his setter, that's the reason why he took the dog over. Mike felt sorry for you because you filled his head with all kinds of pathetic lies. He was only nice to you because he thought you were unstable and might try to kill yourself. Your mother was right when she told me that you should of been an actor, since you live in such a fairy tale world. Every show you went to, I always had someone come up to me and comment on the poor job you do handling your dogs, what a poor loser you are and basicly how immature you are Everyone finally sees you for who you really are LOL LOL LOL
(the above was written by her mother, I was 21 years old at the time, she was 48 years old)
Hi _______ you'd better take the "blue willow" graphic off of your design site!! I made those from pictures of actual blue willow china, and I don't think you are that talented to have the ability to make your own. So please remove it, or I will have to report you of Piracy again. Oh and haha you think your a handler, haven't seen you at any shows with any of those breeds of dogs... and I was at shows all my life... but thats your own lies, I won't get into that..lol.
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Oh, ________ get over your self!! lol your such a whore anyway.. you dont even know the father to your first child.. lol was it Mike?? I think it was that you slept with him to travel to shows.. where you handled dogs for free..(and not all those breeds you have listed) lol... and yet you seem to still be proud of yourself! Thank-you I will have a good year and yes I am very proud of my REAL accomplishments in the show ring... at least im proud of my own name and I don't call myself by my second name ________ NOT ________, just cause ppl called you birdshit right? Id watch you fucking mouth around me...o and i bet your moms real pissed about YOU breaking up her relationship with my mom...!! what family.. i hear your lover is sleeping around on you... haha please do not contact me. and I can add as many comments as I please, where I please
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________, you forgot to add the _____ Terrier to your web design page for dogs. What was all this crap that you were so upset the way ______ was copying everything you were doing, when it was really you who has been obsessing over _______ sites and basically my whole life.You told me you were just going to do photography and not web designs. What a pack of lies!!!! You really are a very sick person that needs help.!! I thought if I let it along you would stop but , you have been getting more crazy and more obsessed with us. It really shows this last time with first redesigned your site again ,using _______ design of the shepherd in a brooch and pink roses, the unforgotten page for your cat's of the past and now the web design page for the different breeds of dogs, which are all OUR breeds, even using ________ diamonds on your setter page which is off of the site she has now. My God you are really a crazy person!!!!! OBSESSED OBSESSED OBSESSED. You really need to get over the ________ , you sick bitch!!!! Don't you think that people that know both of us and have gone to both our sites won't notice that you are obsessed with us, and always copying all our ideas. I have had sooo many dog and cat people contact me, that's how I found out about what you have done this time!!! I have been saving everything that you have used or copied off _______ site and mine for months now for proof and now I have made copies of your web design for the breeds of MY dogs to show everyone down at SKOC and at the P.A. Dog Show to show what an obessed, sick person you are. I'm sharing a room with _________ and some others, it should be a really great laugh!!! I will also be telling them that how you are obviously neglecting those poor boys , since you are always on the computor, obessing over us. Actually I have already had a lot of people contacting me, wondering that exact same thing.I will also be contacting your breeder of your puppy, that he is a sire at 10 months. Talk about breeding just for money and you are going on and on, on your web site about how you are such a responsible breeder, YEAH!!!! I also will be informing her how all you other stud dogs were bred at 10 months and younger and how you let them over breed by letting them tie 3 to 4 times a day for the whole cycle. That's why they all got sick and had to be put down so young. I'm also going to paying _______ a visit to let him know what's really been going on, enough, is enough, you have pushed my buttons for the last time. Don't bother showing your face anywhere I will be!!!!
A Letter sent to the breeder of my dog
I am so sorry I have to write you and have to dump on _____________and her mother ________. When I found out they had bought a puppy for you, I then wanted to but I decided I would stay out of it. When I heard that they had bred that poor, poor puppy of yours at only eight months old ,I just couldn't hold back.
I have known these two from the first shepherd they ever bought ,which was one of mine. Such a BIG mistake. They came to me wanting just a pet. All I had at the time was a small long-haired male. I told them that he was to be just a pet only and had to be neutered . They were both fine with that, went on and on ,all they wanted was a pet anyways. A few months past and I met up with ________ at the Bank. I ask how the pup was doing. She said he was great, really smart and showing to be a good guard dog. She then asked if I could wait on his neutering because she was broke. I feeling sorry for her ,I let it go. BIG mistake. I found out later she found another pet quality long-hair bitch out of the paper[_______ who by the way, was NEVER a POLICEDOG, in fact never showed a lot of protection drive] and also ended up having an accident with my male who at that time was only eight months.
After that she got rid of both the bitch and male ,kept a pup"_______'"[who was tried out by the Police and returned a few weeks later because of poor protective drive]. From there they would search down people, give them sob stories about how poor they were ,but really interested in showing and breeding good quality dogs. They never stuck to that. Poor ________ was also bred when he was only 10 months.[again a claimed accident] The part I really hated is that they would let those poor dogs tie 3to4 times a day for the whole cycle that the female would except the male. _________ couldn't put of with the whining! The thing that bothered me is that she keeps her dogs in crates all the time in her dark dirty basement and they only go out for bathroom breaks. They are never, ever excerised.
When I saw your boy for the first time ,two weeks ago, down at conformation drop-ins. He looked so unhealthy, no weight, no muscle tone and such a sad expressionless look on his face. A look I've seen with all their dogs. Martine is sooo hard and demanding on them!!. Being bred to death doesn't help. The females were being bred on every cycle, all the males came up with prostate problems, go figure!! Had to be put down at a young age.
________ does not live with her mom, she lives in an apartment with her two kids and boyfreind, not husband!! My husband works with her boyfreind, that's how I know. Also has no cats with her. The cats and dogs live with her mother who is on social assistance for years ,no other reason but that she really is very lazy. Even has Meals on Wheels delivered to her house everyday . She is 47 years old and not even over weight for an excuse. She has welfare even pay to have her dog run cleaned once a year in the spring. To lazy to go out and do it everyday.
___________ is not a professional handler and doesn't do a very good job of it. No one likes her because she is such a bad poor loser. All those dogs she has on her website ,most never even happened, some she handled in Junior Handling[also she was never Junior Handling Champion, like she advertises. She never even showed up for the finals.] She held dogs for people at ring side and she got the show photographer, a friend of mine[which she also scamed with her fairy tale lies} to get a couple of dogs, she handled when the owners were stuck to go in the ring with more then one dog. She did get on Irish Setter to handle from a married man she met down at drop-ins. She befriended him by showing interest in him more then his dog.Nowing he was green to the dogs , she made him believe she was this great handler. I will always remember that day she showed the bitch , she did such a bad job of it. The owner was so embrassed, he turned beet red, he payed her for the first day and ended up showing the dog himself the rest of the weekend.
She's tilted a couple of dogs and had wins when there was really only a couple of poorer quality dogs. Her group puppy wins were a joke because there was only one other sad looking aussie pup. She has never done obedience or herd her dogs or anything else. If you talk to anyone who really knows either of them, they will tell you the same things I'm telling you now. Those two are horrible liers, to get what they what and will use and abuse anyone they make friends with their soooo sad fairy tale stories.
Again I feel so sorry for that poor pup you sold them. The bitch they bred him to also has never had her hips done. Another lie. Tha't why she only puts H&E and not proper OFA numbers. Below are a few ads we managed to save. When I called her and yelled at her for breeding that poor puppy so young , she took the ads off that were on her web site. Also for the second ad you have to scolldown past her first ad with their _____ dog, to the ad that has your ______ puppy'
s head. Notice in the ________ dog ad she just has Shutzhund/Champion lines. With your puppy she has top Shutzhund German Import/American Champion lines, thats how I knew it was him that was the sire. Also _________ never diened it, but just sounded really mad that ________ had it advertised on the web site. Also I found an ad in our local Sunday Sun where they have kittens advertised this past weekend.
I just thought you should know since the kitten you got from them may be a _________ cross also. Which is so funny because if you go to her Breed Info page on her _________site she has What breeds of cats NOT to breed to a ___________, one she lists is a _________ . Again I'm so sorry to have to tell you all this, I was hoping those two would smartin up be now, but they are just making more enemies with their lies,and greed for money. Take care __________
PS I attatched the ad from her web site advertising the puppies, if it does'nt show up at the bottom of this letter it will be on an attachment.
A Letter I recieved from someone else regarding their slandering.
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I dont know if you are on the __________ dogs list on Yahoo, but I thought you should know there is a person badmouthing you on it. I have never met you and know nothing about you, but I have been to your website (with the hopes that one day I will be in the financial position to own an _____________ , your dogs are beautiful!) I dont believe that anyone should be slandering anyone else on a public list. I know this because I went through it on this same list with my teen daughter who was badmouthed as well. You may be one of the fortunate ones who could care less and who this kind of thing doesnt bother, but I thought you should at least be informed. Dont get me wrong, there are alot of good people on that list that will voice their opinion in a very positive way, but there always seems to be one that tries to stir up crap! Again just thought you should be aware.
Sincerly,
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Posts from the list regarding a FREE website that I build to showcase breeders from our area:
I know excatly who made this site.. haha too funny because I noticed
a puppy mill listed on the site rite away. (I will not mention who..
it is NOT anyone in this group obviously) I reconized the person who
made this site by the poor web design and all the mis-spelled words.
It was made by _____________ of ____________________. Her
email ________________or her site
______________________________. And if you think I am being rude
towards her, I really have alot against her, it goes back along ways,
so I believe I have a right to be after what she has put my family
through. That is who made it for anyone who was wondering!!!
People responded very negatively towards her, (many of the people on the list know me) these were her replies.
As I have said, I am not trying to send a personal attack out
towards _________, as she has done so to me already, several times in
fact. I have done nothing to her. I am sorry to hear that you think I
was. I apologize, if it looked as though I was trying to "personally
attack" her, I had no intention of it, I just wanted everyone to know
what she is about.
And yes spelling can be looked over if you are trying to be a
professional web designer as she says she is:
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SITE, I am just stating how I feel as anyone should.)
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If you could not tell by my last statement I was apologizing. That
was the whole point of it, I was not denying I have things against
her (because I clearly do, and I have apologized to ______________
personally, but she will not accept it) So again I am sorry if you
think I was being rude, but none of you even know what _________ has
put my family through, or even care to consider my side of things,
she has made me cry several times and I am only 18 years old, she is
24. I have done nothing to her at all and clearly she has something
against me. I would appreciate if you all would consider my side as
well, because if you know me I am NOT a mean/hurtful person, those
would be my VERY last intentions to anyone. So please accept my
apologies this time, as I said I have nothing against her, she has
something against me. I AM TRUELY SORRY. PLEASE DON'T BE UPSET WITH
ME, this was not my intention, thank-you for your time.
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YES I agree, thats what I wanted to do, this whole conversation about
this "new" website is geting out of hand. I wanted to end it a long
time ago, but people can't seem to get over what I said. I really
don't want to have anyone mad at anyone, and I know no one cares what
went one between us, I AM OVER IT, and everyone else should get over
this too!!!
Now lets all just forget about it! I thought this group was supposed
to be about DOGS, and activities involving them and helping each
other out? (Thats was my intention since I know _________ personally,
wanted to warn you about her, but that is okay, I will not, you can
find out on your own, I HAVE NO INTENTION OF STARTING GOSSIP.)
Lets all move on please!!! Thank-you so much!!!!!!
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http://www.____________________
If you would like to know anything, you can conact me personally, NOT
on this group. THANK-YOU!
