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So many atrocities in one book that I can only stick to one injustice at a time. Besides killing somewhere around 30 million people in the bible, the vague 'instructions', the immoral and cruel actions of god and his people, the slaughter of children (in more than a few places), the incest, the violence that would make the cast from 'Texas Chainsaw' blush, the contradictions, impossible feats only defended by the poor excuse of 'faith', mathmatical errors, geographical errors, biological errors, the treatment of women, the condemning of innocent (it doesn't get more innocent than a baby folks), etc. I am only going to pick one theme at a time. Christians claim their bible and beliefs give them a higher set of morals than non-believers which is bullshit of course. They pick and choose verses to make their horror book seem nice but look at it from perspective. Samuel Clemens wrote "It ain't the parts of the bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand" (amongst other great opinions and stories.....wonder why Christians banned Huck Finn from school!).
Slavery.
Why does the bible not only explicitly say slavery is ok, but lays down rules on how to beat them? Owning another human seems to me to be a much more evil act than say, Adultury. Why is Adultury in the ten commandments but slavery isn't? We all know owning blacks and other people of any race is wrong. So why was the bible the biggest instrument used by pro-slavery people? Why did the bible prove to be the biggest aid in keeping black people enslaved for numerous more years. What possible way can a Christian get out of this moral quandry? Well, for starters they can always use the 'those people weren't REAL christians' excuse they pull out from time to time as if they are the judge of who is in their club and who isn't. They can also use the 'it was accepted at the time' which is also troubling because it implies god was to inept to remove it when it officially became unaccepted and that the morals that they have today can just as easily be twisted into something better or worse (depending on which charasmatic figure does the twisting) further down the road. They really can't use the answer 'in Hebrew that means....' because there are too many verses and chapters where slavery is ruled as okay.
In one section the reader is supposed to feel sorry for the poor Israelites for being slaves. In many other sections we are supposed to feel righteousness as the Israelites make other people their slaves (in most cases only women and children, they weren't as nice as the Egyptians who mostly let the men live). Why chapter after chapter of who begat so and so, but not one chapter stating clearly 'OWNING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AS PROPERTY IS WRONG!!!'. With that one commandment, centuries of torture could have been avoided. But for some reason adultry and lying were viewed as more important laws to lay down.
I await the excuses and the attacks. Almost always personal. Someone attacks their beliefs or even asks honest questions and they usually follow.
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Posted by freethinker on 2008-04-24 10:00:17 | Rating: | Views: 144
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Again, you state facts that are not completely accurate. You only put in things that fit your small picture of the Bible. You twist things to try to feel as if you are making a point. What I do not get is what point are you trying to make. I mean is your life so pathetic the only things you have in your meager excistence is to try tobash Christians. Were you spanked as a kid by one. Or did a priest molest you. Something had ot happen because I can guarnatee you have never been harmed by a christian, other than maybe your pride. You speak many lies, like you were a soldier who had your buddies brains blew out on your face in Iraq. But yet with a little research and a few questions to the people who know you, you never have seen the borders of Iraq, much less fought there. So why do you do this. Like I have said before, other than when you are shown that what you are saying is crap and you resort to name calling, lies, mis-statements, and cursing, you actually seem as if you have some intelligence in there. So again I ask, why not do something with your pen and mouth that benefits society. Because in here, no one cares, nor will you ever cause one of us to switch to your side. Your efforts are fruitless and pointless. You say what we believe in si a waste of time, well most people would say your rantings are the actual waste of time.
I would address you slavery issue, but it is useless. Your heart is hard and you do nto know what open mindness is. The verses you know are not Gods permission to enslave people, it is simply what laws were made for their conduct. Slavery was an accepted fact back then and the Jews were th eonly ones who had laws concerning the treatment of the slaves. In fact there are more verses in the Bible against slavery. Just as Jesus in the NT told the people that Moses gave certificates of divorce, it was not what was acceptable to God, but yet God allowed Moses to do so because of the hardness of their hearts. But you would not understand that. But to go even further, the beatings you refer to was the acceptable punishment for crimes done by the slaves, but even then it had limits. Also they were to free them after 6 years. This was not done by any culture but the Jews.
You also mention selling you daughter. But you leave out everything that goes with it. The word slavery was never used in those verses, but instead indentured servant. To this day we do the same thing. Someone owes us money, we wrok for them to pay it off. The greek/hebrew word was "doulos" which does not mean slave, but servant who owes a debt. The greek word for slave is "Arsenokoitai" and was used only a few times in the scripture and always was used for people taken in battle.
The rest is just nonsense. Killing children of the enemy was and still is a reality of war. Only in todays society do we put limits on war. And we pay for it.
You mention that the Egyptians allowed men to live. Where in the world did you get that info from. During most of the Biblical period, the egyptians were know as cruel. They did not allow men to live, except when needed for forced labor. And once in, you stayed till you died. So again the only merciful warrior tribe was the Jews. You keep bringing up the whole slave issue and yet we do it today. They did not have prisons or camps. Much of Isreal was scattered throughout their territory. How were they supposed to keep prisoners, they made them "slaves" or working prisoners. No different than what we do today except now instead of working on our property, they live for years in camps. And after 6 years they were allowed to leave or join the isrealite society as free men.
You obvious hate is a joke. Whoever spanked your bottom from your dads church should be yelled at because the did not do it enough. And if your hate stems from that priest who took you in the back room, have him prosecuted and then get over it. You waste you energy trying to prove a point that is not able to be proved. You will never change our minds with your vile, and in fact most sensible people who do not believe would even find your mouth and your views to be a joke and radical. Whatever has driven you to this point, get over it and grow up. You say you have a kid or kids, spend more time with them. Quit teaching them to hate because you are no different than the KKK parents. They teach their kids to hate based on ideology that has no merit and has no reason. Your pulpit is nothing to be proud of. Try to read that and understand what i am saying. Spend more of your time trying to change the world around you, rather than making pointless arguments that are for the most part not factual and absolutely worthless. Do something for good, because right now you are ten times worse that the christians you rant about.
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Posted by rocky5544
on 2008-04-24 23:31:40
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And your 30 million number. How long did it take you to come up with that number. There is nothing either biblically or historically to base that number on. Just another example of what you will say to try to get a point across. But lets take that futher. If that is a good reson to hate, a made up number, then tell me what nationality you are. I can guarantee that the blood of your ancestors killed a large amount of people both in war and in anger. So lets hate you because your bloodline killed some people! Makes no sense to most of us, but to you it would be the foundation for your hate.
What every person on here should see and probally does, is that you are much worse than any christian ever could be. You hate what you do not know, you hate for no valid reason, and you hate for ever worng reason. History had a guy like you, Hitler. Maybe he is in your bloodline. Thank God you have no power, or we would have to bomb the hell out of you to keep you from committing genocide! You talk about us, but you are much worse than anything you could ever imaging a christian doing. Too bad for you, you seem intelligent and with that inteligence yo could probally actually change many things that really need changing in this world. But yo are wasting your time and energy ranting in an obscure blog. So sad! But rant on, because I for one have no more time for you. I actually, as such a POS christian, spend a great majority of my time helping others. I run a shelter and give of my time to facilitate a Celebrate Recovery. I actually try to make a difference in my community for the good of others. And many of the men and women in my shelter believe in other religions, even have a Wican who comes in, and yet I welcome them all. You should try to do the same. You said you quit drinking, good for you. Use your escape to help others of ANY faith, and quit the dumb crap in here!
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Posted by rocky5544
on 2008-04-24 23:45:43
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Try learning math douche. If you had the capability to, you would see it was not only around 30 million, it could have been more.
God drowns everyone on earth.
30,000,000
And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth. Genesis 7:23, Brick Testament
God supposedly drowned the entire human population (except for Noah and his family) in a flood, somewhere around 2400 BCE. Wikipedia estimates the human population in the third millineum BCE to be around 30 million.
God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone.
1000
the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven. Genesis 19:24,
BT No one knows what the population of Sodom and Gomorrah might have been at the time they were supposedly destroyed by God, or even if they ever existed at all. But Accuracy in Genesis says it was 600 to 1200. And they ought to know. So I just made it an even thousand.
The Seventh Plague: Hail
30,000
And the hail smote throughout all the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast. Exodus 9:25, BT
Wikipedia says the Egyptian population to be 3 - 5 million at the time the Exodus supposedly happened. So if maybe 1% of the Egyptians were in the field at the time, that would mean that about 30 - 50 thousand would have been killed by God's hailstorm. I used 30,000.
God kills all the firstborn Egyptian children.
500,000
At midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon. Exodus 12:29, BT
Taking the Egyptian population as 3 million with an average family size of six, that would mean about a half million first born children were killed by God (or the angel sent to do his dirty work).
God drowns Pharaoh's army in the sea.
1000
And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them. Exodus 14:28, BT
Since there's no way of knowing how many were supposed to have drowned, I just picked a number. 1000. I'll be (over)using that number a lot in these estimates.
God and Moses help Joshua kill the Amalekites.
1000
And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword. Exodus 17:13, BT
God burned to death an unknown number for complaining. 100
And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them. Numbers 11:1, BT
God sent "a very great plague" for complaining about the food.
10,000
And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague. Numbers 11:33, BT
Since this was a "very great plague," I figure at least 10,000 must have died.
God killed those who murmured with a plague.
100
Those men that did bring up the evil report upon the land, died by the plague before the LORD. Numbers 14:36-37, BT
How many would die in a regular plague? 100 or so maybe?
Massacre of the Aradites
3000
And the LORD hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities. Numbers 21:3, BT
Since God "utterly destroyed" several cities, at least a few thousand must have died.
For complaining about the lack of food and water, God sent fiery serpents to bite the people, and many of them died.
100
Numbers 21:6, BT
I figure "many" is maybe 100 or so.
God delivers the Bashanites into Moses' hands and Moses kills everyone "until there was none left alive."
1000
And the LORD said unto Moses, Fear him not: for I have delivered him into thy hand, and all his people ... So they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive. Numbers 21:34-35, BT
The slaughter of the Anakim, the childen of Esau, and the Horim
5000
A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them ... As he did to the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, when he destroyed the Horims from before them ... And the Avims ... the Caphtorims ... destroyed them, and dwelt in their stead. -- Deuteronomy 2:21-22
The usual 1000 from each group.
God hardened the king of Heshbon's heart so that the Israelites could massacre his people. (included several cities)
3000
And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: -- Deuteronomy 2:33-34, BT
God delievered the king of Bashan so that the Israelites could massacre his people.
60,000
So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining. ... threescore cities ... And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. -- Deuteronomy 3:3-6, BT
60 cities were "utterly destroyed." That ought to be at least 60,000.
Massacre of Jericho
1000
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city [Jericho], both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. -- Joshua 6:21, BT
God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape.
1000
And the LORD discomfited them before Israel, and slew them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, and chased them along the way ... the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. -- Joshua 10:10-11
Massacre of 7 cities (Makkedah, Libnah, Lachish, Gezer, Eglon, Hebron, and Debir
7,000
So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:28-42, BT
The massacre of 7 cities. At least another 7,000 must have died.
God delivers the Hazorites.
1000
The LORD delivered them into the hand of Israel ... and they smote them, until they left them none remaining. -- Joshua 11:8-12, BT
Massacre of the Anakim
1000
Joshua 11:20-21, BT
Massacre of the Canaanites
1000
Judges 4:15, BT
God delivered the Ammonites to Jephthah to slaughter.
1000
The LORD delivered them into [Jephthah's] hands. And he smote them ... with a very great slaughter. -- Judges 11:32-33
God forces the Philistine soldiers to kill each other.
1000
Every man's sword was against his fellow, and there was a very great discomfiture. -- 1 Samuel 14:20
God orders Saul to kill every Amalekite man, women, and child.
1000
Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. ... And Saul smote the Amalekites ... and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword. -- 1 Samuel 15:2-18
God delivers the Philistines.
1000
I will deliver the Philistines into thine hand. So David ... smote them with a great slaughter. -- 1 Samuel 23:2-5
God delivers the Philistines to David (again).
1000
And David enquired of the LORD, saying, Shall I go up to the Philistines? ... And the LORD said unto David, Go up: for I will doubtless deliver the Philistines into thine hand. ... And David did so, as the LORD had commanded him; and smote the Philistines." -- 2 Samuel 5:19, 25
God sent a three-year famine because of something Saul did.
5000
Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites." -- 2 Samuel 21:1
Baasha killed everyone in the house of Jeroboam "according to the saying of the Lord."
1000
He smote all the house of Jeroboam; he left not to Jeroboam any that breathed, until he had destroyed him, according unto the saying of the LORD. -- 1 Kings 15:29-30
Zimri killed everyone in the house of Baasha "according to the word of the Lord."
1000
He slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that pisseth against a wall ... according to the word of the LORD. -- 1 Kings 16:11-12
God calls for a seven year famine.
10,000
The LORD hath called for a famine; and it shall also come upon the land seven years. -- 2 Kings 8:1
Jehu shows his zeal for the Lord by murdering "all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him according to the word of the Lord."
100
Come with me, and see my zeal for the LORD. ... And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him, according to the saying of the LORD, which he spake to Elijah. -- 2 Kings 10:16-17
God delivered the Israelites into the hand of the Chaldeans.
1000
The wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy. Therefore he brought upon them the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand. -- 2 Chronicles 36:16-17
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Posted by freethinker
on 2008-04-25 12:34:21
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Again, you speak from that warm place set between your cheeks. You sat wiki inspired your numbers......I take back what i said about you being intelligent. LOL you are just another I know the truth cause wiki told me kind of person. 30 million could be the number or it could be 10 or 100, and it is absolutely irrelavant. Again you stand on nothing but air. So what if God ordered the killing of BILLIONS. So what. What is your point. We all know you are ignorant, that the biggest words you know is douche, and you hate christians. DO you really think we care. I think I have it finally. You are so pissed of because when you were serving your time in prison for sexual relations with a sheep, there was this huge guy in your cell who wanted to pirate a little from you. So you prayed asking God to help you, but because of your sheep loving, he let your roomy have his way with you, so now you blame God.
Man dude, get a life. How pathetic you and your life must be. But i will tell you something you should think about. You should thank God he gave you the dad he did, because if you were my son and showed the disrespect you do to the world and to me, like you do him, I would still be whooping your butt each and every time I saw you. And I guarnatee I could do it! I have met punks like you, usually they are closet gay, wife beaters, loudmouth hemans behind a screen who real life are just angry that the best job they can get is Burger King and instead of looking inward blame everyone else and hate all those who have something. So which one are you....closet or wife beater. I have said this before, but will say it again. I can no longer in good conscience bantor with you. You obviously are not on the same level, wiki man, have no issues with lying, i served in iraq and had my buddies brains blew out on me man, and you have no problem twisting what really is to try to prove a point, mr wiki says God killed 30 million. I can not feel good about exposing you anymore, it is not a fair fight. Your spitball just does not pack enough of a punch for me!
Since you can not even understand the Bible, you can not possibly understand why God would order a nation wiped out. No more than you can understand why a general orders the same thing. Since you never served a day in your life, you could never understand war and killing. In every situation you showed, God warned them first. He warned them what was coming and gave them a chance to change. They chose not to, so he kept his word. One day you too will understand his warnings and the truth. But until then, you bore me. I can not believe I have wasted this much time on you. You are like a broken record that was not that good in the first place. Your repetitive nature is a joke. But keep trying, some drunk will come in here soon and say right on man. You will feel right at home when it happens. I know you got to miss being the local drunk know it all. Preach on freethinker, maybe one day you will get a parishoner or two. Until then your head really has to hurt banging it so much.
By the way, either come out of that closet or quit beating the wife. It will help you stop your pathetic hate, because you will soon get an ulcer. LOL
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Posted by rocky5544
on 2008-04-25 12:56:25
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Funny you mention priests molesting me, that is their specialty isn't it..lol And I don't hate I do not know, you just worship something that doesn't exist. Who is the one wasting their life... Wow you help out at a shelter. Give the hypocrite a Prize someone!
You say things like "The rest is just nonsense. Killing children of the enemy was and still is a reality of war. Only in todays society do we put limits on war. And we pay for it. "
Yeah, we should go back to killing kids. Nice defense. Nice morals there there you pious fuck. I wonder how the God of ultimate power is against abortion but has no qualms about TELLING, PERSONALLY to kill kids. That sure is the definition of 'just and merciful' right!!!!!
And your poor translations excuse is also bunk. Which bible did you get that from? Out of the thousands of different versions out there?
And who did you talk to hmmmm to gain gain knowledge of my service? Someone who didn't know I was on three deployment to the gulf? I never said a buddies brains got blown in my face, but I have seen people die over there. Would you like to check my service record? 95 to 99. Cvn-73. Ordanace. three deployments. Go back to your shelter now and give a bum a sandwich, because that is making a difference right! lol. I can prove wrong every statement you make, your misinterpretation of EXCACT words from the bible! And you are right, my bloodline did kill a LOT of people in the BC era, I am Jewish for your information. :P So yeah, go ahead and hate my people if you want, then you would fit the Hitler aspect personally. Who often preached on what a good Christian he was!
And slavery is no differen now than then???? Fucking retard. I am glad you have no time for me. Read your book of gore and incest and have fun. Go make a difference a feed a wiccan! Good for you. Then go back to the abortion clinic and call young women making a difficult choice 'babie killers' and looking down on people who think your religion is a fucking joke, that science prevails over faith any day or do people really live almost a thousand years? You tell me or pssstt have god tell you! Oh shit, I forgot. He only makes stops for poor people and people with bombs strapped to them or bombers of abortion clinics or people burning witches. Or flying into buldings.Ask your wiccan friend if she is cool with the burning alive thing!
I don't teach my kids hate, I will let them make their wn decisions unlike CHristians who force their children to go to church weekly and fill their mind with nonsense like being raised fom the dead and people living 900 yeas.
and no, I was never harmed by a Christian. I am glad I don't live in Africa though, where groups of Christians kill each other for different interpreations. Much like in Ireland, just not so grand.
And speaking of your opinions on slavery, I called it right up there, either god commanded it, it was acceptable and you used the 'I interpretent differently' line. Three in one post! Yeah, Yaweh must have helped you bigtime on that one! I do help society in my own way, but mostly I don't think they need it. They need to be taken down a few notches to be honest. Make em be poor and hungry and you can rope in right in with false promises of hope and gods love. You are actually doing harm to the same people you push a plate of salisbury steak on.
Want to talk slavery! Read Deut. in the exact words it is written in. Or are you so brainwashed you HAVE to skip over the incest, especially of the ONE family god felt was noble having that the two daughters fuck their dad! Or go read how david so loves dickheads he cut not the 100 required off his fallen victems, he liked it so much he did an extra hundred. WHOOO god loves him some dickhead. LITERALLY.
Unfortuanatly, this isn't an argument I can win. When you die I hope to say told you so, but I can't you'll be dead and nonexistent, but I will move on to the next person. I want people to enjoy the one life they have, not waste it preparing for one never to come. So fuck your "morals" (the ones that appease slavery, the ones that approve murder of children and the ones that hate people who think your god is a joke on the same level as Jack and the beanstalk wrritten by ancient barbarians who had a tendancy to steal almost every aspect of their shitty book from past religions and their own miracle acts...you might want to reseach that too!)
Anyone else have a defense for slavery? Or think that is as fucked up too. God loves slaves, but he hates queers. He loves you! But he hates you loving your family. He wants you to beat and stone your kids! But he wants you not to have sex before marriage. Some sort of standards this "just" god has.
My morals tell me to fuck his and most people of your faith and listen to my own set of morals. ANd trust me, they are higher than anyone who has excuses for killing babies in their sleep and commanding his soldiers to bash the brains of kids on the street.
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Posted by freethinker
on 2008-04-25 13:29:39
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PATHETIC, can not even keep your own lies straight. Here is what you posted on my blog, notice your facts are different than what you just posted, which i will point out in a sec.....
God bless our troops huh. How many times have you been to Iraq? Or in the Persian Gulf? Or under fire?
Until then keep your stickers off the car if they have the saying GOD bless them. Haing been there 4 times, voluntarily, We protect ourselves. Little prayers from an old lady in mississipi or wherever isn't going to change the mind of an insugent who just threw a friends inside all over my face okay. Glad you support us. But if you really wanted to, call for a troop reduction. You may think the Iraqis need more help, but if its the tropps you care anbout, we just want to see our babies born while we were gone and see our growing children going to school the first day instead of bulding a school for poor kids while our schools here are falling apart. Help the troops, save some money and let us see our family.
OK first it was insides on your face, lol my fault.
Second you say in this post 3 times yet in your response to my blog, you say 4 times. Funny you would mess up on that since it has been such a short time!!!
Third you say you served from 95-99 in IRAQ????? First war was in 1991, second started in 03. Not one serviceman or woman was in Iraq between those years. So how were you there to see someone die?
Now on to the CVN-73. The great USS george Washington. Funny, your name is never listed on any roster, open to the public, for any of the years you listed. Second it was no where near Iraq during the 95-99 period, and not one soldier on the USS George Washington ever stepped on the ground in Iraq during either war, because of course it was not even comissioned in time to see the first war.
And to your negative comments about the people who are less fortunate. A drunk calling homeless bums. That is a cliche huh.
Dog gone you either have to be one of the worst liars i have ever had the misfortune of running into, or you are just plain dumb. If you are going to lie about serving this country or claim you served in a war, at least get your facts straight, put down the right years the war is actually waged, and put down a military branch that actually sees ground fighting. Last but not least, list a ship that was somewhere near Iraq during the years you claim to have served.
And you call the Bible a fairy tale and call the authors dumb. Maybe you dad forgot to tell you that when you live a lie, it becomes hard to keep up with your lies. At least next time you decide to keep lying, go back look at what you have written before, so that you can at least lie the same thing.
So which is it 3 tours or 4. That is not something any soldier would forget or mess up on. Did you serve in the Iraq war or was it in 1995-1999. Did you serve on the ground or as you claim, the CVN-75 or the USS George Washington. And ordinaces huh.
This is getting even more funny. You are not good for much, but at least you are ammusing!
There is an old saying that fits you so well...um "soldier boy"
Liar, Liar, Pants on fire........
Served my rear end!
Whatever morals you have set for yourself, are seriously lacking.
But again, all who read must pity you. Your grasp and knowledge of the Bible is about as valid as your grasp and knowledge of the truth!
Hey, I think budweiser is calling you. Since you lie about everything else, being a current drunk explains so much. So when did you quit drinking......... NOT!
And you are jewish now too. Man you never quit. Must be so fun to be in your head. A great imigination must be a fun world. Problem is, normal people give up that childish behavior as they grow up. Playing with GI Joes does not make you a soldier.
FACTS FACTS is something a liar like you can never know, nor will a liar like you ever understand facts are what bust your vivid stories! Soldier....that was a good one. For all your supposed learning, did you never read when the Iraq war actually happened. So make sure you delete your post amd fix the errors. But thankfully for all of us making a copy of your original lies was easy!!
Do me a favor though, try to snap back to reality, sober up a little, so that your next round of ignorant rantings and lies are a little harder to discredit. Ok "soldier boy!"
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Posted by rocky5544
on 2008-04-25 18:51:57
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First of all, you do know the GW went on three (the fourth was 2 days after I lest to the Persian gulf right? You do know we ombed Iraq in all three deployments I was on, right? I mean you know so much about it right? I never said I had a guys brains on my face and I surely didn't say I was on the ground fighting. I bombed, flew in and triaged guys all kinds of fucked up Was in Kuwait for a bit, mostly in United Arab Emirates and Bahrain. You can check the port records if you like. And to checking my name on the roster? What is my name by the way? I mean, since you checked and all. In fact, I didn't make that post AT ALL. So another nice try. You know most Christians are full of shit but you take it to another level. Another level so high, that you won't be posting here anymore :) not because you repeat the same shit over and over, not because you are a moron and doing what I love Christians to do time and time again, not because you are a troll and not because for a Christian, you insult like the best of em (Bet you wish they still did burning alive of heretics am I right!). But because of your lack of biblical knowledge, your lack of understanding anything dealing with science, logic and having not a whit of rational thought. It's actually because you are some little man/girl in a little sheltered church (obviously one of those 'we hate gays (because we secretly have gay thought) and we hate people who don't believe the shit we are selling.
I say this rarely because I try not to get mad. But fuck off. You, personally. Not because of your beliefs, but because you are the worst kind of troll. Ones who makes up shit. Can't read his own book of magic. Doesn't know a thing about science and just spews out insults and bullshit with every post. Go back to the your virgin Mary's teat and fuck off.
But search your sources, check my name, the one you don't have, against the crew member list you magically have got. Shit it cost me 75 bucks for ONE crew 'deployment' year book. I could give a fuck if you don't believe me, you can ask my father, who obviously has difference with me if you want. But I would consider him a far more decent Christian then you. And since I TRY to deal with rational religious people (well, as rational as one can be I suppose) peace out rocky. Don't step on that crown of thorns on your way out.
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Posted by freethinker
on 2008-04-25 20:02:45
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And speaking of people reading wiki too much..... Since I have been there, I know what I have seen and I know what I did, it isn't worth the effort of someone who thinks a paragraph they read somewhere on 'jesusblowsme.com' or 'vetwannabe.com' sees. SO if you want to think of me as abullshiiter, fine. Go ahead. And then, because you love your version of facts! Go tell some people that they to will live 900 years or can live inside a whale for almost a week!
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Posted by freethinker
on 2008-04-26 10:21:29
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