New wall was carried up in Berlin!

[Bitz]

Like a fair fool on Thursday I went to see the 20-minute U2’s FREE concert celebrating 20 years since the fall of the Berlin Wall at the Brandeburg Gate. Do you know what I’ve seen instead of U2? A new wall – a metal fence draped in a white tarpaulin cover! Idiots! What a clottish thing was to built three-meter metal barriers to celebrate the anniversary of the historic event (in fact, I could hardly see the Gates from the eastern part)! Sounds like irony, doesn’t it? Friendly speaking, no joke at all! It was supposed to be a party about togetherness and unity. But it was openly turned into a high rate sh*t! I asked a volunteer: “WTF?” – He answered: “The organization is held by the music network MTV, the 10 000 tickets being made available on the internet, why are you so outraged?” WTH, do 10 000 today mean even a half of Berlin’s population to call it FREE concert? Or may be this FREE concert was organized for the 10 000 OPEL workers, whom another American company (GM) plans to throw out – don’t worry, relax and listen to the music!??
Fu—ing Yankee have gone absolutely nutty making us lick their boots and bow to them and we just allow those dorks do it easily!

[doughknow]

There are probably some laws and regulations pertaining to crowd control and the fence you're talking about is likely the result. There sure as hell weren't and American rules involved.

As to Opel/GM, keep in mind that GM in now Obama motors. You know Obama. He's the guy you're all infatuated with over there.

I'm getting sick and tired of Europeans ranting, bitching and blaming America everytime they get a crooked hair up their asses. It is particularly annoying in recent years because you turn around, when you want something, and talk about being "world citizens" out of the other sides of your mouths. There are a hell of a lot of American isolationist who would cut all ties, of any kind with Europe and everywhere else. I don't agree with them, but, again, your crap is getting real tiresome.

[paddystyle]

I'd just like to point out that U2 are Irish not American so this is in fact our fault

[paddystyle]

Originally Posted by doughknow

There are probably some laws and regulations pertaining to crowd control and the fence you're talking about is likely the result. There sure as hell weren't and American rules involved.

As to Opel/GM, keep in mind that GM in now Obama motors. You know Obama. He's the guy you're all infatuated with over there.

I'm getting sick and tired of Europeans ranting, bitching and blaming America everytime they get a crooked hair up their asses. It is particularly annoying in recent years because you turn around, when you want something, and talk about being "world citizens" out of the other sides of your mouths. There are a hell of a lot of American isolationist who would cut all ties, of any kind with Europe and everywhere else. I don't agree with them, but, again, your crap is getting real tiresome.

Tell me more about these isolationists?...i like the sound of them

[mrmacq]

Originally Posted by doughknow

, keep in mind that GM in now Obama motors..

keep in mind that GM in now "doughknows motors"
to the tune of 1/360 millionth of 30%
(or was it 10%?)
im sure they'll buy your share back though
rest assured
as for the rest of your post
im not touching it
i will however
listen attentively to the answer to paddys question
perhaps pose a few of my own after that

[ManiacMonkey]

wow lol well... sometimes it's worth checking out the news my friend...

U2-Konzert am Brandenburger Tor ausverkauft

Berlin (dpa) - Alle 10 000 Karten für das U2-Konzert am Brandenburger Tor in Berlin sind vergeben. Bleibt zu Hause und schaut es euch im Fernsehen an!», rief der Musiksender MTV am Mittwoch die Fans auf.

translation:
U2- concert at Brandenburg gate is sold out

all 10 000 tickets for the concert (...) are taken. On Wednesday MTV told the fans to "Stay at home and watch it on TV!".



http://newsticker.welt.de/?module=dpa&id=22893670

http://ema.mtv.de/news/news_brandenburg_gate

MTV.de:
Update: Die Tickets sind alle vergriffen! Am 5.11. bei den EMAs einschalten, um die großartige Performance zu sehen!

[doughknow]

Originally Posted by paddystyle

Tell me more about these isolationists?...i like the sound of them

There is a relatively small proportion of Americans who are formally "isolationist" and accept the label. Some Libertarians are probably the most explicitly outspoken about it today. There have been small Isolationist political parties at times (there may be one operating today). However, there is a large proportion, perhaps most, of Americans who's thoughts on international relations are somewhat dominated by an isolationist attitude. This attitude crosses party lines and other divisions between people. I believe it was George Washington who warned against foreign entanglements and it is not at all uncommon for his statement to be referred to or even quoted in conversations among ordinary Americans. Occasionally it will pop up in speaches during political campaigns and even in Congress. To some extent most of the "anti-war" agruments, at least implicitly, involve this isolationist attitude. With regard to foreign relations, given the choice most Americans will say "to hell with them". Many Americans, even during the cold war, see no good reason for maintaining forces in Europe. The U.S. was late getting into World War II because this isolationist attitude dominated the debate about it. Even today many Americans say we never should have gotten involved in it, "Hitler was not threat to us, and look at all crap we've had to deal with since".

The isolationist attitude is somewhat of an elephant in the room in American politics. It does affect American policy. The U.S. State Department is dominated by internationally minded people who promote and advance policies that are not consistent with American attitudes. Occasionally they cross the line and propose a policy that Americans just won't tolerate and they get smacked down (the Kyoto Treaty is an example). A large proportion of Americans regard the U.N. with utter disdain and are disgusted by U.S. participation in it. It would be a mistake to think that public, politically correct talk actually expresses the private attitudes of most Americans. It is also a mistake to think that American policy involves some kind of "imperialism". Americans are not imperialists in any sense comparable to European imperialism, and never have been.

This does not mean that Americans have a bad attitude toward other people(s). In general, we like people in or from other places and enjoy contact on an individual basis. But we don't want to be involved in foreign political crap and we don't appreciate it when other countries do things that seem to require our participation. The sale of "Gobal citizenship" has not been closed on the American people.