4th September-International Hijab Day

[ThePoet]

I made this thread in www.twcenter.net/forums on 4th september, i am posting my first post to that thread here.The reason of making this now is that i want to know what thoughts people think about hijab and ban on this.

http://www.prohijab.net/english/Press-Release-solidarityday.htm

The Assembly for the Protection of Hijab has declared the 4th of September as a worldwide International Hijab Solidarity Day. Muslim women continue to suffer in countries such as France, Germany, Tunisia and Turkey, to name but a few, where the Hijab has been banned thus ostracising those who wear it from the very societies in which they live.

Following the remarkable success of the 17th January 04 “International day to support the Hijab” in which event took place in more than 35 countries around the world, the 4th of September will be another show of solidarity for religious freedom supporters.

The 4th of September also marks the return to school of girls in France, where the ban in academic institutions will commence. Such a ban will serve to create outcasts of every Hijab wearing Muslim girl causing untold psychological damage. The show of solidarity on 4th September is expected to provide these girls with the support and strength in order to fight for their rights.

The issue of the Hijab ban is a live one and with the continual escalation of the ban, Protect-Hijab thinks it is imperative to keep it at the forefront. Organisations, individuals and all those supporting the right of Muslim Woman to wear the Hijab will use September 4th to show solidarity with all Muslim women who are being denied education, freedom of expression and basic human rights and civil liberties.

While in France, young girls are being stopped from entering school premises wearing the Hijab; in Turkey Muslim women are being denied medical treatment and excluded from parliament for wearing the Hijab; and in Tunisia Muslim women are taken to prison and tortured if they wear Hijab. These are some examples of the persecution suffered by women simply because they follow a religious teaching as an expression of their faith.

Protect-Hijab calls people of all faiths and no faith to show solidarity on the 4th September events everywhere in the world. The Protect-Hijab campaigns will continue as long as there are bans against the Hijab in place.

This day is being attributed to "Martyr of hijab Marva Al-Shirbini" who was stabbed in her back by a racist German Islamophobe in Court of Law.

http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/world-day-for-germanys-marwa-shaeed-atul-hijab/

CAIRO/PARIS — The gruesome murder of a hijab-clad Egyptian woman by a German racist last week is continuing to send shockwaves among Muslims, while inspiring many to make a stand.
A proposal put forward by one of IslamOnline.net’s readers for a World Hijab Day to mark the death of Marwa Al-Sherbini drew immediate support from around the world.
“We are throwing our weight behind this proposal,” says Abeer Pharaon, the chair of the Assembly for the Protection of Hijab.
“Sherbini is not only a hijab martyr but also a victim of Islamophobia, from which European Muslims are suffering,” she stressed.
“Her death deserves to be commemorated and marked as a World Hijab Day.”
Sherbini, 32, was stabbed to death by a 28-year German of Russian origin in a courtroom in the eastern city of Dresden on Wednesday, July 1.
He stabbed her 18 times before the pregnant woman was to testify against him for insulting her for wearing hijab.
Sherbini’s husband, who was preparing to discuss his Masters next month, was also injured when he tried to intervene to protect her.
The despicable crime sparked calls by IOL readers for action in defense of Hijab, an obligatory code of dress that every Muslim woman must wear.
One reader suggested marking the tragic death of the young woman with a special day on which Muslim women across the world would take to the streets to defend their dress code.
“We are supporting the proposal,” Rawa Al-Abed, an official in the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe, told IOL.
“We are also calling for organizing more events to raise awareness about the rights of Muslim women in Europe, including wearing hijab.”
Many Muslims marks the International Hijab Solidarity Day in the first week of September.
The day was launched by the London-based Assembly for the Protection of Hijab (Protect Hijab) in 2004 to protest a French law banning hijab in state schools.

Those who chose to vote the third option please illustrate the limitations. Your thoughts please.

[paddystyle]

If someone wants to wear a Hijab then that is totally up to them....in this most Catholic of countries we respect the right of people to celebrate they're culture,tradition and religion in whatever way they see fit whether it be Hijab,Cross or wee fat man with a smile:)

[ThePoet]

That's music to my ears, listening a westerner saying that we don't have problems with Hijab,thankyou so much.

[paddystyle]

That's music to my ears, listening a westerner saying that we don't have problems with Hijab,thankyou so much.

Why should we have a problem with it?....do you have any problems with anyone wearing a cross?,i bet not....religious tolerance is a given as far as i'm concerned....tolerance leads to understanding which leads to less fear

[ThePoet]

definitely i don't have any problem with people wearing cross,having david star or else but you are wrong in saying that you people don't have problems if you really don't have then why hijab was banned in France and why that woman was stabbed for wearing hijab in germoney.see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhIwLgNsfwI

[paddystyle]

definitely i don't have any problem with people wearing cross,having david star or else but you are wrong in saying that you people don't have problems if you really don't have then why hijab was banned in France and why that woman was stabbed for wearing hijab in germoney.see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhIwLgNsfwI

Thankfully i live in neither Germany or France and can't speak for what's going on there,but in a free society such as Ireland people are allowed to express they're beliefs in whatever way they see fit as long as it causes no hurt.....the Hijab is an expression of the Islamic faith and as such should be respected for that

[paddystyle]

just so long as it is for religious resons, then fine , it is her choice, but I have to say that I have seen some who never used to wear it before all the bad trouble, who are now wearing it in support of the mujahid, and this is very wrong.

Your correct its all about choice i in no way support or condone any one who is either forced to wear it or wears it for political means....if a women wants to wear it as an expression of faith then fairs does but any attempt to make it political is disgusting and should be condemned

[ThePoet]

just so long as it is for religious resons, then fine , it is her choice, but I have to say that I have seen some who never used to wear it before all the bad trouble, who are now wearing it in support of the mujahid, and this is very wrong.

I don't know whether you are a muslim or christian but as you are from a muslim country syria i expected your support for hijab as women's right but, what bad trouble are you talking about and what mujah for women wear hijab please make this clear.

[ThePoet]

well no.1: it is now a proven thing that 9/11 was a cia conspiracy,and without proper investigations in U.N. u.s. launched a war against Islam and muslims and this made muslims come back to their religion, no.2 if some muslim woman wants to wear hijab because of some political purpose it's again her wish and will you can't say that is wrong although that would be useless.

It's just curiosity i want to know your religion if you don't mind.

[paddystyle]

well no.1: it is now a proven thing that 9/11 was a cia conspiracy,and without proper investigations in U.N. u.s. launched a war against Islam and muslims and this made muslims come back to their religion, no.2 if some muslim woman wants to wear hijab because of some political purpose it's again her wish and will you can't say that is wrong although that would be useless.

It's just curiosity i want to know your religion if you don't mind.

There is a distinct difference between wearing a Hijab for religious reasons and for political reasons in a non Islamic Society....we ban certain political symbols here in the West because it causes division and offense,the wearing of the Hijab as a political statement is as offensive to some as the wearing of the Swastika...intent is hard to prove and subjective but the Hijab as a religios statement is ok but not as a political one

[lizbethrose]

We live in an area with a very diverse population--Asian, Indian, Arab and the various colors of the American born races. As a result, I think we're pretty tolerant. Also, I work in a large library so I see a lot of that diversity among our patrons, along with the various forms of native dress.

If a woman want to wear her veil, that's fine. If, for whatever reason, she chooses not to, that's also fine. It sounds as if the German who stabbed the woman as she was about to testify against him was a real nut-job. As for the French, the justification for forbidding the hijab was always given as trying to prevent kids from being teased by other kids. I'm not French, so I can't say for sure.

PS, Poet, the CIA was not involved in 9/11. That's a myth, an urban legend, a conspiracy theory--one of those things that's believed because it's been on the internet so often.

[ThePoet]

i agree with paddy that if in non-muslim countries muslim women wear hijab for political purposes this is not good according to their society norms,but i think Charleite is talking about syrian muslim women who started taking hijab for political purpose in this case this is not wrong at all.thanks for replying.:)

Just a sample of West's prejudice against Hijab

http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1032

I cannot imagine what was going through the thick brains of the Football Association FIFA management when they decided to ban women footballers from wearing the hijab. As the old saying goes: when God was handing out brains, did they miss out?

It is not only discriminatory, with no useful consequence whatsoever than make it more difficult for Muslim women to join the sport, but I bet it will be reversed soon enough when they come to their senses. Why? Because I bet the Indians (once they wake up from their slumber over the impact of this decision) will soon enough point out that it also discriminates against Sikh men from wearing the turban on the pitch. As Osama Saeed points out, the key passage states:

A player must not use equipment or wear anything that is dangerous to himself or another player (including any kind of jewellery).

How the hell is a hijab dangerous to others? This is typical of orientalist thinking – that world football should only be preserved for those following western cultural norms. If the woman (or the man) is in normal uniform, wearing the hijab or turban should have little impact on play. Dimwits.

[lizbethrose]

I don't know how securely the hijab is attached to the girls' hair, so I can't say whether or not it would cause any problems during a football match. (BTW, we call the game soccer in the US.) Is the Football Association 'international?' If it is, it can make rules that apply to all nation's that belong to it. If that's so, it shouldn't make rules for those teams that are only playing within their own nations. That would apply to the Sikh's, as well.

However, if a team that belongs to the FIFA goes on to International competition, it should follow the rules of the organization. Games are for competition rather than for religious identification.

[paxaeon]

I am 100% behind anything that gives women their freedom of choice, garb included.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/987/345pxwomanwalkinginafgh.jpghttp://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5271/244982745607cd29c234.jpghttp://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3058/newmodelforhijab.jpghttp://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7844/sexyhijab.jpg

[lizbethrose]

Oh, my! Is that what Islamic women wear in soccer matches? That last picture can't be of an Islamic woman, can it?

[ThePoet]

no the last photo was mere a sample of god damned right of expression

[lizbethrose]

no the last photo was mere a sample of god damned right of expression

Maybe. Does this go along with the Islamic Arab countries introducing a bill in the UN (?) that would squelch any free speech or religious disagreement if it goes against Islam?

What's wrong with free speech, religious disagreement or right of expression?

I was born and raised a Roman Catholic. I thank God I wasn't born and raised a Jew in Israel. You have the freedom to post what you want to post against the RCs and the Jews--to say what you want to say against anyone who disagrees with you, but now you want to restrict any freedom of speech if it in any way can be construed as disagreement with Islam. If this passes, Arabs won't be able to say anything about Jews, will they?

[Nevis]

listening a westerner saying that we don't have problems with Hijab,

Don't we really? :confused: