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Lightstar55510
02-09-2009, 02:54 PM
Realism vs. Idealism

The difference between Realism and Idealism is clouded to a certain point. There can be "practical (realistic)" "noble goals (idealistic)", but that concept of reality is far in-between. Practical nobility does exist. You just have to know what you are looking for, know where to look, and have to be willing to look for it.

Realism
re⋅al⋅ism [ree-uh-liz-uh m] –noun
1.interest in or concern for the actual or real, as distinguished from the abstract, speculative, etc.
2.the tendency to view or represent things as they really are.


Realistic
re⋅al⋅is⋅tic [ree-uh-lis-tik] –adjective
1.interested in, concerned with, or based on what is real or practical: a realistic estimate of costs; a realistic planner.
2.pertaining to, characterized by, or given to the representation in literature or art of things as they really are: a realistic novel.
3.resembling or simulating real life: a duck hunter skilled at making realistic decoys.
4.Philosophy. of or pertaining to realists or realism.


Realist
re⋅al⋅ist [ree-uh-list] –noun
1.a person who tends to view or represent things as they really are.
2.an artist or a writer whose work is characterized by realism.
3.Philosophy. an adherent of realism.–adjective
4.of or pertaining to realism or to a person who embodies its principles or practices: the realist approach to social ills; realist paintings.


Idealism
i⋅de⋅al⋅ism [ahy-dee-uh-liz-uh m] –noun
1.the cherishing or pursuit of high or noble principles, purposes, goals, etc.
2.the practice of idealizing.
3.something idealized; an ideal representation.


Idealistic
i⋅de⋅al⋅is⋅tic [ahy-dee-uh-lis-tik] –adjective
of or pertaining to idealism or idealists.


Idealist
I⋅de⋅al⋅is [ahy-dee-uh-list] –noun
1.a person who cherishes or pursues high or noble principles, purposes, goals, etc.
2.a visionary or impractical person.
3.a person who represents things as they might or should be rather than as they are.
4.a writer or artist who treats subjects imaginatively.
5.a person who accepts the doctrines of idealism.

Here are 3 examples that are idealistic, but are currently not realistic, practical ideas.
Example 1 is a list of markets that are excessively saturated.
-Computer/Network Support
-Debt Collection
-Debt Consolidation
-Yard Care
-Web Site Design
-Construction
-Advertisement
-Cybersex Sites
-Dating Sites
-Online Porn in General
-Indian and Asian Restaurants
-General Automotive

Example 2 is the hybrid vehicle market. They are great idealistically, but they are not practical in price from a calculated census that 85% of the US population (lower middle class 30%, working class 30%, working poor 13%, underclass 12%) can not afford that type of vehicle. It is said that the batteries within the vehicles will drop in price within the next 10 years. This will make the hybrids more affordable for the lower classes, but the original purpose of the hybrids will have already come and gone with as much pollution as we are creating now. That purpose is to cut vehicle emissions. Not enough people are buying them currently to make any such present difference.

Example 3 is about the electric and hydrogen cell vehicles. They are highly noble ideas,but they are not realistic. Electric vehicles use electricity directly. Hydrogen cell vehicles use hydrogen cells filled by hydrogen extractors which use electricity.
It is how we generate the electricity that keeps these vehicular technologies from being a practical idea. 48.9% of all electricity created in the US is from coal burning power plants. The rest is produced from nuclear 19.3%, natural gas 20%, petroleum 1.6%, hydroelectric conventional 7.1%, other renewables 2.4%, and other 0.7%.
As it has been explained on wikipedia, blogged, put up on forums, and blatantly posted on websites, clean coal technology is an oxymoron, and an industry's hype; there is no such thing as clean coal. Clean coal sounds great, but it is unrealistic, a visionary's utopian idea.

Now we will talk about one of the rare practical noble ideas, the GEET fuel processor, plasma power, but first we must speak of it's creator. A man by the name of Paul Patone, a exception plasma physicist who is wrongfully imprisoned in Utah State Asylum.

"History is filled with the plunder, sabotage, neglect, persecution and erasure of key inventors and scientists working on crucial technologies for our future. The cost to mankind in lost science and technology is not well known and has been utterly disastrous. Nikola Tesla was prevented from bringing free wireless power to the public in the early 1900’s. The lives of hundreds of millions have been unnecessarily cut short and ruined because of the relentless A.M.A. persecution of Royal Rife and his incredible 1930’s technology to treat cancer. Philo T. Farnsworth’s promising research for electronic fusion was stopped cold by a corporate takeover in the 1960’s. These are just a few significant examples." TeslaTech Inc.

How does the processor work? Watch both these videos.

If this does interest you please read the business proposal for The Ion Shop;
What good is money if we are dead from our own destruction?..

Zilam
03-08-2009, 06:11 PM
You can essentially have both systems working together. You push for the idealistic measures, but prepare for the realistic outcomes. Its how we live basic life. We all have high expectations for ourselves, but accept out low paying jobs and stagnant lives.

DocHolliday
03-09-2009, 08:20 AM
It's idealistic to think everyone should have a job and health care.

It's realistic to know not everyone wants a job (just look at how many 20 & 30 year olds choose to live at home with their parents) or health care for that matter (when I was in my twenties, I had no reason to have health care since I was never sick).

It's idealistic to think all nations should get along peacefully.

It's realistic to know that due to ethnic, religious and economic reasons, countries will, from time-to-time go to war.

Winston Churchill said it best. If you're twenty and not a liberal, then you don't have a heart. However, if you're forty and still a liberal, then you don't have a head.

I love that quote. :D

Pauligan
03-09-2009, 09:28 PM
It's idealistic to think everyone should have a job and health care.

It's realistic to know not everyone wants a job (just look at how many 20 & 30 year olds choose to live at home with their parents) or health care for that matter (when I was in my twenties, I had no reason to have health care since I was never sick).

It's idealistic to think all nations should get along peacefully.

It's realistic to know that due to ethnic, religious and economic reasons, countries will, from time-to-time go to war.

Winston Churchill said it best. If you're twenty and not a liberal, then you don't have a heart. However, if you're forty and still a liberal, then you don't have a head.

I love that quote. :D

And if you live past forty and still think liberal and conservative are anything but words in a dictionary then you have allowed someone to brainwash you.

T3wig
03-10-2009, 11:54 AM
realism: if you kill everyone so that your child will be able to survive.

idealism: if you kill everyone no one else would be left in the world :D

Pauligan
03-15-2009, 06:45 AM
As a lifelong realist and fatalist, I have little use for idealism.
Life is what it is.... a bitch, and then you die.


It's all in the perception, Frenchy. There are better ways to look at life than just dealing with it. Idealism is what we our hoping our outcome will be once we deal with the now of the present. The reality, of course, is there is only the now of the present, but the spirit, my spirit anyway, doesn't function well without the thought that situations will get better.

Pauligan
03-15-2009, 01:40 PM
God bless you Paul! I truly enjoy being acquainted with those of your optimism. Your rose colored glasses must be a delight to look through.
I live each day to the fullest and find the things of nature to be genuine solace to the spirit, yet I find the concept of idealism in a tumultuous society to be a figment... a ghost ship drifting in fog enshrouded, placid waters.
True happiness comes in understanding man's absolute inability to ever attain the ideal.


Reality is living on the ghost ship. Idealism is looking for dry land.

Pauligan
03-16-2009, 05:51 AM
Touche my friend:) Long live the optimist... God save the liberal:)


I am not a liberal. When it comes to politics, I am a realist. I only sound like a liberal because I speak out against what the conservatives have become.

Pauligan
03-16-2009, 11:07 AM
I know you do Paul, and I speak out against them both, although I do consider liberals to be the worst of the two.
Were it not for our differing opinions, what a pathetic, boring world this would be.
I must say, however, that the unique among us are those who can discuss our disagreements without harboring hatred for those with whom our opinions differ.
Several on Thoughts are unable to do so.... and I am quite certain you know of whom I speak:)


THERE ARE SOME WHO HAVE TO YELL TO GET THEIR POINT ACROSS, that's for sure. Btw, I don't get on to the Democrats because they are doing just what Democrats are supposed to do. They have an ideaology that they believe in and stick to. More government, more taxes...there are no surprises at all here. The more I see of the stimulus bill and what they are trying to accomplish with it makes since to me. Now if they want to continue on a road of excess spending and taxing after we are out of danger then I will vote them out. Hopefully, by then, the Republican party will have dumped the dittohead/Neo-con crap and get back to a party of small fiscally-minded conservative people that don't want to control our lives.