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 Living a Polyamorist Lifestyle
    Posted by elvenbeads on 2009-08-27 20:56:57 | Rating: | Views: 117
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Let me be the first...
I have given this notion much thought,
and was discussing marriage and monogamy
with a younger unmarried friend just yesterday.
I have managed to just live and reach my own conclusions,
but enjoyed and will have to bookmark your post.
MUCH to think about it, I appreciate it!
Rose
Posted by  RamblinRose  on 2009-08-27 21:20:48 
  
First let me say that I am not judging or condemning here.Just call me old fashioned.Such a lifestyle is unthinkable from my own personal viewpoint.I am 24 years into my second marriage.My first marriage lasted 10 years.I never once considered an extra marital affair,not once and I never will.The notion of infidelity,and dolly it up as much as you like,that's what it is, well its just plain sad. But hey...to each his own.If that's what a person wants to do so mote it be.
Posted by  rupert777  on 2009-08-27 21:38:55 
  
Being Poly is not cheating. The Triad that I am currently part of, the man involved is IN love with both of us. As BOTH of us (myself and the other woman) are IN love with him. When it is time for a solid commitment. He'll marry her legally. He and I will have a hand-fasting ceremony which for us will be a solid commitment for us. And should the other woman wish, we could hold a special, personal (for us) triad hand-fasting which would connect the three of us to one another.

And for those of you who don't know, a hand-fasting is a Celtic marriage ceremony. Usually meant to last a year and a day but can be more permanent and in some states depending on who is doing the ceremony, can be considered a Legal proceedings. IT IS NOT CHEATING. She knows he is with me, she knows I love him, that I will take of him. I know the same thing when he is with her. While we aren't living together now, we will be doing so in the future because together, WE ARE A FAMILY. Maybe it's not a family type that you are use to.

But it's still a family. And if I have children with him, then our children will grow up knowing how much they are loved. And the same goes with her children. NO one asked you to judge my life or the lives of others like me who live this type of life. I don't judge your life.

And for someone like me, who is bisexual and is bound to meet other women in my lifetime, who I will wish to date and perhaps might fall in love with and may even wish to make love with in the future too. I know that before it ever makes it to that stage, i will talk to both of them. I will explain how Im feeling and how the woman is. I also know that before she ever becomes part of my life, she will meet the other two and if they all don't get along. If for an reason my main Triad doesn't like her or for some reason she makes "judgments" on my current life. She and I won't go further. Because the most important members of my life are the current family that I have.

The family that stood by me when my ex-husband continually beat me up. Put me in the hospital and almost KILLED me. And when my blood family told me to stay with him because he was my meal ticket. They cared more about my life, my happiness, my existence on this world. They helped me get out and become healed again. So no, I would NEVER cheat on either one of them and the fact that you can just sit there and make your judgments on my life or anything that you know NOTHING about disgusts me. You are exactly... judging and condemning. The fact that you claim that you aren't and then you go ahead and compare Poly to an affair when it has nothing to do with that, is making a judgment and condemning. Nor is INFIDELITY. IT IS NOT INFIDELITY. why don't you take you christian judgments and go elsewhere.
please.
Posted by  elvenbeads  on 2009-08-27 22:34:16 
  
Hi elvenbeads

First off let me thank you for this very informative blog about polyamory.

If polyamory is an open, respectful relationship involving more than two people, it will still, always, be considered cheating by those who don't embrace the same principles as you do. A rose is a rose by any name, so no matter what you call polyamory, some with traditional values will always find this way of life inacceptable, while others, like you, will find it totally appropriate, even better. Just like religion, you can't change their point of views, and there is no right or wrong, it's all a matter of being objective and accepting each other. Whether they are monogamous or polyamorist, ALL relationships can go right or wrong.

And you cannot expect not to be judged, especially if you choose to display your lifestyle so openly. When you don't follow the majority, the majority points their fingers at you, simply for being different.

When it comes to the "fairy tale" love story we were taught to dream of and encourage to seek, well... yes, almost everyone seeks it. Let them have this dream, and even if it doesn't last and ends in a divorce, at least they would've had tasted a parcel of it, and it would be all worth it to them, and I think that's what matters most to them.

"The family that stood by me when my ex-husband continually beat me up."

Your whole blog was very eye-opening, solid, almost persuasive, but the fact that you mention that this couple was all you had to support you during a very difficult time, this will automatically lead people to assume that you became a polyamorist only because you met these people while you were at a vulnerable stage. If it was only one man who stood by you during all the hard times, you would've ended up in a monogamous relationship with this man. So their presence during harsh times, is your very personal reason for embracing polyamory, but not a valid nor a strong argument if you really need to defend the true advantages of polyamory against those who might judge you.

But of course, it is your right to advocate polyamory, no matter the reasons that led you to this more liberate lifestyle.

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Literary analysis aside...

As for me, to be completely honest, I would be able to sustain a polyamorist relationship :) But I am now with a very monogamous man who loves me and it would be unfair to him that I see other people, men or women. And I love him so there is no one else I'd rather be with right now anyway.

This concludes: you are who you love :)

Have a great weekend elvenbeads...
Posted by  cunning_mistress  on 2009-09-05 10:12:48 
  
I admit I shout have stated early on in the piece that I have been Poly long before I met the "couple", as you stated. I was in fact poly back in college. Having come to terms with the fact back then that as a bisexual woman it was going to be very difficult to find a relationship where I might be able to be with a man and a woman with whom I cared and loved very much so. Then a friend took me to a Poly Rally where there had been a meeting after-wards and I began to learn more about the lifestyle.

Someday I hope to live in that perfect society where we don't feel the need to put others down because they worship differently than others; or because they LOVE differently; or marry differently; or believe differently; or do ANYTHING differently than others do.

I'd like to think that someday this "perfect" or somewhat semi-perfect world might exist and in doing so; people might not judge so quickly and so harshly.

My response to the person who left his response to my blog.... which you commente on... the thing is... I've deleted more hate filled nasty comments concerning this piece than I have about my other pieces. Many of them, were down right cruel and evil. And having known what true evil looks like, from an early age; Its easy for me to point it out now.

I am a firm believer that; "If you have nothing nice to say than you should you should say nothing nice at all." I would certainly NOT, got to some of these angry-so called "xtian wannabees" and piss all over their blog posts, just to do. Just to hear myself or just to make sure the <"little heathen, because you're not to be considered human, should be taught a lessen that God is not so forgiving when comes to garbage like you. It's a shame that what you're uncle and Pastor McKay started they couldnt finish"> that types of comments like the one I just quoted is an example of some of the garbage I've had to take off both the comment fields as well as the mail on here. Which leads me to wonder, what has happened to people that they cannot handle a difference of an opinion without becoming nasty about it. Without having to reduce themselves to baser life forms.

I am poly now, and will be for life. But I also choose to remain monogamous to my Master who is also my partner. Should I meet another man, who strikes my fancy... things might change and they might not. But they won't change unless everyone on our group is onboard with it, that means W and J an myself. As for the female of our group she is monogamous to W and since she is straight and I am Bi. If I want to have that kind of relationship I will again be looking outside our group for that fulfillment. Should I meet a nice women and the my group likes her and she likes her and everyone gets along well then I woulg agree to date her and see where things lead.

I think the big difference in Poly couples/groups/families is that nothing will work without TRUST, RESPECT AND COMMUNICATION for and with ALL parties. Sometht that is missing sometimes gets missing in other groups, and thus failures happen. but again just my opinion.
Posted by  elvenbeads  on 2009-09-06 18:39:14 
  
Hi again elven

Most people have strong beliefs based upon their religion/education, and yes, many of them will point polyamory as being wrong and sinful. I agree that the spiteful comments weren't needed @ all and you did the right thing deleting them. They are just as bad as sexist or racist comments, but I believe the people who leave those are the ones who are affected and get most hurt by your blogs.

If you expose yourself on a public blogging site and say something that most would consider scandalous, it's only obvious and normal that these people react and write something negative about it, especially if it goes strongly against their personal beliefs. Look @ my posts for instance; I have not posted the most honorable side of me, and vivid reactions I did get. But at least I've been honest, and so were you.

If we are honest with ourselves and with the world, we should expect the world's reactions - good or bad - towards the actions we commit.


PS. Sorry for the delayed reply, I am not on here often :)
Posted by  cunning_mistress  on 2009-10-21 09:02:48 
  
"but I believe the people who leave those are the ones who are affected and get most hurt by your blogs."

So what... NOW I'm suppose to write only the happy, fluffy stuff so no one is "hurt" by something I write?

Get a grip.

This is my blog space and I will write about whatever I need to write about, regardless of what that is. I don't write so that others can make happy little ratings, I write because I NEED TO WRITE. I NEED TO GET WHAT IS FLOATING IN MY HEAD AND GET IT DOWN OUT OF MY BRAIN AND INTO AND ONTO PAPER, REGARDLESS OF THE TOPIC: personal stuff about my life and childhood, my divorce and what lead up to it, the chronic pain i live with, my stress and fear of the future, and a host of other things. I dont ask anyone to "like" what I put down here. What might be nice is they give me a measure of common courtesy that I show them, but not JUDGING THEM IN RETURN AND BEING NASTY JUST BECAUSE I CAN.

At this point people on here know what they are going to get from me, if you dont like it... then by all means, DONT READ MY BLOGS.
Posted by  elvenbeads  on 2009-10-21 16:39:15 
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