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 Hentai or Porn?--pick your poison
What a strange topic to choose, I know. Especially from one who dislikes the very thought of such media.  But, hear me out. 

As a cartoonist and film maker/enthusiast, it greatly upsets me the amount of time, effort and people put into something so...BLEH!  I see the quality of this japanamation, this anime...and I think, "Why are these extremely--EXTREMELY--talented artists wasting time on such sexually based tripe?"  I am almost outraged that much of the japanese animation I find--other than the the dull, dry sci-fi space/police stories--is consumed with either "fan service"(showing womens' panties and bras in a sort of tongue-n-cheek teasing way along with the flashing of cleavage) or outright sexual situations!  Now, then you watch some clean cartoons...many from American artists--at least I THINK they are still made by Americans(and I mean other than the CG revolution which I am sure the Asian market will emulate all too soon)...they don't seem to have the same quality of imagery.  There is just something about japanimation that brings out the warmth of the sun, the crispness of leaves, the eerie innocence of the schools with uniforms, the shine of metal and glass...structure.
 
But, so much is defaced by questionable content--with a select audience--promoting sick obsessions.
a sample of quality art misused
Now, flip the coin to real people on video...what is just commonly called "porn."  Here you have live people doing the same thing as the ones in the adult anime but with less talent and far less concept of plot in most cases(although I hear there is a woman working in the industry designing porn for women with more plot and emotional connection with people who are not of stereotypical physique).  So, it is merely a sort of costume play wrapped around acted sex

Now, I ask you, which is better?  ANIMATED porn or just regular porn?  Or, neither at all?  ANd, what is your opinion on the anime issue?  Can we clean the matter up?  Can we instill some dignity in our asian neighbors to use their talents for something better?  Or is Hentai merely the asian substitute for porn because they do not allow/respect live actions of that sort?(and yet, I am sure there are plenty of asian porn sites/videos to devalue this question anyway).

And, I am open to both types of answers from the "Ho, I like porn!" to the "I hate the whole thing, change the subject."  So, let it out.  Share your thoughts.  I think this is a valid and pertent discussion topic even if it is of "lower tastes."  The truth is out there:P 


Think about it.
    Posted by brainstormer on 2007-10-21 15:36:46 | Rating: | Views: 1574
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Not all anime is porn, some of my favorite shows are anime. Shows like Detective Conan(Cased Closed) or Fruits Baskets, do not put that sexual aspect in. I personally do not like the idea of animated porn. I think society does look at anything that deals with sex in a taboo light, so anything that has sex in it is sometimes not taken as seriously. Cause I don't think even if porn was tastefully done that it would become an acceptable thing. Did I answer any question you asked?
Posted by  Amalgamation  on 2007-10-22 14:52:01 
  
Just to clarify...hmm, seems to be something common on here:P having to clarify things...I did not mean to imply ALL japanimation/anime is pornographic or suggestive. I said much or a majority. Yes, I know of some good anime that is quite void of questionable matter. But, sometimes even the most unsuspecting video choice can include some strange moment or scene where you know there's someone going "teehee" for slipping it in there(and maybe someone else seeing it in a different light than the average eye).

If you want examples of anime that are NOT so questionable and decent to watch, I liked a series called S-Cry-Ed, the movie The Cat Returns(Spirited Away is very well drawn/painted but a bit lacking in satisfaction at the end) and the Japan/US televised cartoon series Teen Titans is quite amusing and somewhat entertaining. I will even go as far as to say the 90s OVAs of Cutey Honey(some of the best animation I think I have ever seen except for the face/eye style maybe) and Lupin III--both a bit "cheeky" or teasing at times--are decent viewing(though Cutey Honey has a few moments that push the envelope).

My purpose here was to instill a little extra effort/support in trying to curb some of the misuse of such quality artistry and put it to better use.

But, tell me...what is the purpose of hentai/animated porn?
Posted by  brainstormer  on 2007-10-22 22:35:31 
  
i know no purpose of animated porn. and porn sounds so derogatory. i think a new name should be added to the dictionary of the all too common ritual which is Taboo because of the Christian majority.... don't make me go there!!!

but to answer your orginial question... i'd vote for porn over the cartoon stuff.

my number one complaint is that the little pointy nosed bitches have purrfect shaped tits...

as a woman with smaller ones myself... i despise Fake tits!!!!
Posted by  orangeMandaryn  on 2007-10-24 00:13:31 
  
I encourage it. I mean... if people don't want to watch it, they shouldn't and if they do, they should have the freedom to. As for the people creating it, they still must have talent if it sells and even porn/hentai can be great just like even though Hitler was a little psycho, he was a great leader. Greatness can't really be determined by the amount of "good" [behavior wise] in the product. Its overall just a great outcome, dirty or not.

I think porn is better for the industry. Its sells no matter what and for every person out there getting laid, there's a lot more who aren't.

Overall, I encourage it on guys and girls. I know in the past, the guys I've been with that have admitted to watching lots of porn have been better in bed in the end... whereas the ones who didn't were a little lost and confused.

Just like watching football teaches you to be a good player, watching porn can teach people to be great at sex.

Is it so terrible? No. I bet you just about every American has seen porn or hentai at some point or another, its just not accepted in society. Rather then supporting it, people criticize it because thats how they're taught to react.

Should we be criticizing it?
I think an applaud is more in order.
Posted by  KrisBrandt  on 2007-10-24 17:07:38 
  
Hey, orangeMandaryn, did you see blondie's nose above? Uh-huh. Listen, Kris, I think you have a career in the matter. If not, I'm sure someone would hire you if interested/desperate.

Talent in porn/hentai...hmm. Well, in comparison with your model example, it would be the same if you made a movie about disciplining or neutering a dog. Not something you see every day. Not something most people would watch casually. But, if you watch, you'd learn how to do it better.

And, yet, the difference is sex is a function of two people--supposedly in love(not just horny, ehem))--who clearly know how their bodies work and what they like. They, knowing each other, can explore each other together and make it work. You don't need a video to tell you "okay, so I put my hand down there and then form a two-finger hold like that..." In fact, if you follow a video, what IS that? That's some whack sex education. "Hey, honey, where did you learn that?" "Oh, I was watching this hardcore porn video." "OOoh!"--oh, spare me! Not to mention, if you have half a brain, you can figure out what works and doesn't with your lover. There are only so many body parts to play "operation" with; it's not rocket science. And, if you think you're gonna ace sex from a video only to find out the girl/guy doesn't like that bit you're trying, what a sorry loser YOU are. I don't think when they made pornos/hentai they intended it as instructional video.[Not to get off subject, but now I think of sperm banks and how sick THAT is to be a guy given materials to get off on to donate sperm.]

And, frankly, I wouldn't be proud of being some sexual don juan by learning from some perverted video where the only point of making it was to throw two characters in some costume fetish into a sex scene! In fact, I've seen/heard people comment on this type of videos, and the people reviewing/commenting often say blah about the paper thin plot which distracts from the good or bad sex scenes. So, clearly it's not acting talent. I get uncomfortable watching sex scenes in regular movies. I have no desire to delve into worse acting just to wrap a cop or nurse hat around a sex salad. If you sleep around and are rating guys on their "skills" from watching porn, well you're a *cough* whorse of a whole different color. To each his or her own.

I simply think the product lacks any replay value and promotes perversion--regardless how pleasureable/painful the experience may be from the minds of the creators. I am not sure those practices are even healthy(The M word is up for dispute yet). I have heard radio doctors and teachers of classes past insist on not doing those things. It's not about the Catholic faith; it's not romantic. Period. [I would only make an exception in the case of a couple who are a bit low on imagination and feel they are losing the "spark" to MAYBE watch one of the better-made ones--if there is such a thing--together for SOME sort of inspiration. Again, a maybe.]

This discussion just put a BAD taste in my mouth>;(
Posted by  brainstormer  on 2007-10-24 21:16:22 
  
I disagree with both ideas, but I'm currently struggling with a porn addiction whether it be animated or real-life.

I feel like an idiot because I'd be the first one to vote any kind of porn illegal but I would probably the first one to go to jail for viewing it.

I'm a hypocrite. God save me.
Posted by  SubTomato  on 2007-10-26 04:40:44 
  
NOW, we're talking. I was wondering when an addict would say something:P [Then again, you could just be teasing--so I hope you're serious.] So you watch BOTH? Geesh. I don't understand though why you would make it illegal but still be addicted to it. I don't know why, but that's strangely funny:P
Posted by  brainstormer  on 2007-10-26 15:48:04 
  
Forgive my commenting on something you probably see as ancient history in terms of your blogs. I enjoyed some of your recent ones, and decided to go do some catching up. That said...

When photography was invented what do you suppose were among the first subjects ever taken? And when the technology to make those pictures move came along, what was among the very first ways that handy advancement was put to use? The success of porn shows humankind's fascination with the subject.

And so the trend continues. As animation continually reaches higher levels in its state of the art - - hand drawing, computer modeling - - it's all fair game to be used as the next format for new porn.

I don't see much of a distinction between hentai, anime, live action ... if it's porn, it's porn. And it's all immensely popular. More money spent in the U.S. annually between novelty stores, DVDs, and web sites than the four major pro sports attendance, combined. It's obviously doing something for someone, if not for you.

I was surprised by the intolerance in your response to Kris. I thought she gave some honest feedback.
Posted by  GhostOfDerekD0min0  on 2008-02-20 13:26:50 
  
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Posted by  swatiagrawal  on 2008-12-14 02:35:53 
  
Grr, that means you don't like cartoons:( You are "too grown up" and will never see Neverland that way:P Or Narnia:P hehe. I still like cartoons. But, some things don't really belong in them sometimes:P
Posted by  brainstormer  on 2009-05-09 01:35:22 
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