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Posted in braatz's blog 2008-04-06
In the year 1869 two brothers left Pomerania, one to Brazil and the other to the US. Two different decisions that shaped the destiny of their successors. Which branch faired best? What would you be doing if our ancestor would have gone together with his brother either way, to the US or Brazil? How difficult was the life of each branch in the first years of emigration? Which family has more members (the Brazilian or the Northamerican)?
Bellow you can see the successors to the Brazilian branch. Johann August's brother went to the US. I do not know his name. Gustav August Friedrich's, the son of Johann August, my ancestor, was 15 years old as he arrived in Brazil in 1869.
Please, Braatz families in the US: Whose branch entered the US in the period of 1868-1970? Where did they come from in Pomerania? Someone from Ruetzenhagen or Wopersnow? The Brazilian branch had the DNA tested. Would some US family members do it also to identify his southern hemisphere cousins?
Visit our family sites www.family.braatz.com and www.braatz.de for more information.
One family tree branch (mine) is as follows: Rudi Braatz (* 1942), Fridoldo (1917-1968), Ernesto (1895-1972), Guilherme Augusto Frederico (* 1877), Gustav August Friedrich (* 1854 in Wopersnow, Pomerania), Johann August (* 1835 in Leckow, Ruetzenhagen), Johann Braatz (* 1812). A brother from Johann August (1835), son of Johann Braatz went to the USA, but I do not know his name.
LBB I am part of a U.S. branch of Braatz's that goes back to August Friedrich Wilhelm Braatz born Jan. 1, 1800 in Westfalen, Prussia. He died Jan. 20 1870 in Clyman Township, Dodge County Wisconsin. He had a son names William August Frederick Braatz, born Octber 4, 1830 in Prussia and died March 26, 1904 in Brandon, Wisconsin.
sbtalmadge I am part of a US branch of the Braatz/Bratz family that arrived in the US (New York) on July 6, 1869. They left Hamburg on May 14, 1969 on the sailing/clipper ship the Lord Brougham. There were two Braatz families on that ship. Mine was from MarienFliess (near Stettian) Prussia (now Germany). The other family was also from Prussia, but I am having trouble dechiphering the name of town.
My family - Michael Braatz, wife and 5 sons.
Other family - Carl, wife and 1 daughter.
All were headed for Wisconsin.
Hope this helps
kelmika Does anyone have a EDWIN FREDRICK BRAATZ in their family tree? ALBERT BRATZ? A WILLIAM F.BRAATZ born APRIL 11, 1886 in Germany? He came to California in 1946 from Lorain, Ohio. Please let me know if these persons are in your family tree> Thanks, Linda
kelmika On the post above , about William F. Braatz, I did not put my email address: kelmika@verizon.net
braatz Two comments: One about the Ship Lord Brougham passanters. From Ned Braatz I got the list with only one Braatz family in that ship: Michael (45), Sophie (40), Wilhelm (15), Friedrich (10), Carl (12) and Franz (5), ages at day of arrival July, 6, 1869. They are probably not my relatives, because they came from another location in Prussia as mine.
I narrowed down the probable brother to my ancestor who came to Brazil to two entries in the list I got from Ned: Wilhelm Braatz (30), married to Louise (29), who arrived in the ship Hammonia in May, 19, 1869 (no children) and
August Braatz (23)who arrived alone in the ship Capella in Feb. 9, 1869.
If somebody has one of these ancestors, please contact me and let us compare our DNA.
rudi@braatz.com
braatz These are the places, with Polish names and coordinates, referred to im my ancestor's documents:
Wopersnow / Oparzno 53º45%u201939.74%u2019%u2019N 15º41%u201941.63%u2019%u2019E
Semerow / Zabrowo 53º50%u201946.62%u2019%u2019 N 15º35%u201931.93%u2019%u2019E
Schievelbein / Swidwin 53º46%u201959.50%u2019%u2019 N 15º45%u201955.02%u2019%u2019E
Rützenhagen / Rusinowo 53º46%u201950.41%u2019%u2019 N 15º36%u201901.10%u2019%u2019E
Liepz / Lipce 53º43%u201959.36%u2019%u2019 N 15º40%u201931.12%u2019%u2019E
rudi@braatz.com
braatz In the previous entry, where you see %, understand " (the minutes in geographic coordinates).
The data bellow I got from Wolfgang Braatz, born 1846, and might be the connection I was looking for, because this Wilhelm Braatz comes from Liepz, a very few kilometers distant from my earliest reference from my ancestor. He went to Amerika in 1862 with a family Hoppe or Hoepke.
1862 mit einer
Auflistung von Auswanderern aus Liepz und Rützenhagen. Hier der Inhalt:
An das Königl. Hochlöbl. Landraths Amt
Zu Schivelbein
Anmeldung
Es haben sich heute bei mir nachbenannte Personen zur Reise ( Auswanderung
nach Amerika ) angemeldet, mit denen ich Contract abgeschlossen habe, und
zufolge des Reglements vom 6. September 1853 § 7 ich dieses hiermit anmelde.
Werden befördert durch den concessionierten Expedienten Aug. Bolten, Fa.
Miller (?) Nachfahren in Hamburg am 15. April 1862 nach New York.
Aus Liepz:
Erdmann Hoppe ( Hoepke ? ) Bauer 49 Jahre
Henriette Hoppe geb. Freitag Ehefrau 50 Jahre
Carl H. Sohn 20 Jahre
Eduard H. Sohn 17 Jahre
Hermann H. Sohn 14 Jahre
Albertine H. Tochter 12 Jahre
Hulda H. Tochter 8 Jahre
Albert H. Sohn 6 Jahre
Friederike Radünz ledig 22 Jahre
Wilhelm Braatz Bauersohn 16 Jahre in 1862, born then in 1846
Aus Rützenhagen:
Carl Zahn Pächter 59 Jahre
Friederike Zahn geb. Kühl Ehefrau 57 Jahre
Louise Z. Tochter 22 Jahre
Caroline Z. Tochter 17 Jahre
Carl Z. 15 Jahre
Geburtsorte sind nicht genannt. Die Ortsangaben Liepz und Rützenhagen stehen
in der Spalte "Wohn- oder letzter Aufenthaltsort".