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I really don’t like personal blog posts. I prefer to blog about topics which I find interesting. Science, ethics, social issues, etc. These are the reasons I am here. Sure I like a bit of controversy, most people do. I have never shied away from it, in fact I embrace it. However, I like the type of controversy that gets people thinking, and talking. 
 
Recently a new kind of controversy has found me though. One I am not proud to be a part of. Some here may have noticed a little tension growing between myself and a bloger named Fraglerock. To be honest I found it a little entertaining when Frags got all huffy with my high blog hits. He had always struck me as a little bit of an attention seeker and a friend monger (not to mention always showing up when a blog of mine did well to acuse me of what he calls boosting),these are traits that I am not particularly attracted to, but hey, it takes all sorts. For this reason I will admit that I chuckeled a little when I got the first few emails.
 
For those not in the know, Frags has been accusing me of clicking the refresh button on my web-browser. What this would do is give my blog an extra hit making it more ‘popular’ in the eyes of the thoughts team and so sending the particular blog to the top of an arbitrary list.
 
I calmly told Frag that I was not doing this (not because I think it’s a terrible sin to commit, but simply because I do not have the time or desire, hell if people want to refresh, I say go ahead). I thought that it would end and we could all move on happily, which we did for a while. Recently however I have been accosted by a number of mails, comments, blogs, and chats. Again it didn’t really effect me. I like seeking people react in situations like these. Some people took my ‘side’ I guess and that always feels good. Then, about 10 minuits ago I received a chat request from my friend F. below find the full text of the chat:
 
fraglerock 10:47
man are you still here refreshing your crap???? everyone knows now that you are just a thoughts attention whore ha ha ha ha ha ha ooh ohh lets sit and play refresh all day long because my blogs are really g-g-g-g-g-g-g-arbarge ha ha ha i will have to get my good friend trod from south africa to come have a word in your sad little ear
fraglerock 10:48
have fun refreshing ha ha ha ha ha
TimothyStevenDowns 10:48
dude
TimothyStevenDowns 10:48
wtf
TimothyStevenDowns 10:48
?
TimothyStevenDowns 10:49
hello?
 
Now tell me, do these sound like the words of a sane man? Basically it is now making the thoughts experience unpleasant. I am not going to go to the thought staff with this. (Honestly I think if Frag was kicked off this site his life might end). I just thought that it would be good to get things out in the open. I think people deserve both sides. Frag appears to be one thing, but in fact he haunts people behind the scenes. He has hundresds of friends and possibly knows the thoughts staff but that gives him no right to bully people. I have done nothing wrong on this site, I have never coveted popularity or trodden on people. I am not trying to incite a flame war here. I think we all just need to grow up (no matter how old we are) and get on with blogging.
 
THIS IS THE ONLY BLOG I WILL WRITE ON THE MATTER.
 
Next time look forward to my usual.
Regards.
    Posted by TimothyStevenDowns on 2009-10-14 11:32:02 | Rating: | Views: 254
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Tim ~

NO you have NOT done anything wrong on this site that I have observed.

Yes Frags needs this site more than it likely needs him....and frankly his remaining here is likely going to continue. When he is blogging his happy self... he fits a bill that some enjoy.

This obsession he has with you ~ you and I know will eventually go away... right now he has a few that unwittingly are encourgaing him... but it all will slide away.... and once again Thoughts will be quiet (for a while).....

I am sad to see that he has chosen you but I also recognize you are able to deal with it to most extents....

You mention he has numerous 'friends' and I trust you realize that the friends invite/request thingi is as much a tool as the stumbleupon buttons and RSS feeds.

I am the last one to say .. dont get too overly discouraged over the current thoughts for tomorrow will be a new day.... becuz I too have gotten discouraged.

Just rock out some more of your writings... I LIKE reading them... and... thank you for sharing them here.

Posted by  UniversalSeductress  on 2009-10-14 11:52:45 
  
Thanks. Re reading this blog, it does sort of come across as a bit of a cry for sympathy, which i did not intend :)

Shall we get back to our daily lives?
Posted by  TimothyStevenDowns  on 2009-10-14 12:11:30 
  
sorry katey but you are wrong here my dear.
i have not said that timothy has done any wrong here, all i am saying is he should fess up to his hitting refresh and be a man, he would gain a hell of a ot of respect from me if he did, but as long as he continues to try and make me look stupid to hide his refreshing obbsesion then i will never respect him.
he really is a brilliant blog writer and he does'nt need to do that crap.
just saying you know, he is just making the site look stupid when he abuses it in that manner.
regards fraglerock
Posted by  fraglerock  on 2009-10-14 12:16:49 
  
AAAHHAAARRR AAAHHHAAARRR THERE YOU GO AGAIN USING MY NAME IN YOUR BLOG HA HA HA HA HA if i am such the baddie here then why did i not just post the evidence and let everyone including the staff make up their own minds.
no my friend the reason i did'nt post the evidence is because i thought you would be man enough to fess up, as for friends collector i have already deleted many of my friends from my list because people like you were complaining about how many i had, if you want to see a friend collector have a look at mr swarmeringa LOL, another harmless blogger who gets a hard time.
just be a man and do the right thing timothy.
i have nothing against you, but how you have the brass neck to come on here and try and turn your misdemeanors on me when you know damn well you are lying through your teeth.
i would'nt give a monkeys of no one read my blogs as i am quite happy interacting with my friends and reading an commenting blogs, i do'nt have time like you to sit and hit refresh hours upon hours upon hours.
now mr attention whore what do you have to say about that, as i am sure you will come back with something equally stupid ha ha ha ha ha.
have a wonderfull humpday my friend.
regards fraglerock
Posted by  fraglerock  on 2009-10-14 12:07:26 
  
1. there is no difference in me using your name and you posting about me with a knitting blog. People know what we are talking about here.
2. You have no evidence. how do i know this? because i do not do the boosting thing that you accuse me of. there can be no evidence if the person didn't commit the act. You searched for 'TimothyStevenDowns' and found nothing. Try search for 'TimothyDowns'. I think the reason you never posted this is because you realize the invalidity of it all. (I don't think anyone will accuse you of taking the morel high-ground in this little dispute)
3. Am I to understand that you will now spend time boosting a blog of yours in order to prove a point? will this return balance to the thoughts site? Have you stopped to think about what point it will prove. I mean relay stopped to think. I'm sure you will realize how ridiculous it all is.
4. Have you considered the implications if you are wrong? I know right now you feel certain, but even you must understand that there is at least a chance that you have got this wrong. That i am being honest and in fact have not done anything wrong. I know you have tried stumble and not received the same results, but its about tags and audience. It is possible there are a larger number of people stumbling for science fiction stories then there are stumbling for poems about flowers. How could you be comfortable with taking this chance (no matter how slim you might think it is)? And if (or when) you realize you are wrong, how will you justify your actions, to me, to the other members and to yourself.
5. I don't think this issue is about 'boosting' any more. It is my experience that most people really don't care about the hit list. This issue is about people thinking that they have the right to shit on the little guy. I don't care what you think about my hits, I care that you think it is ok to accuse, and poke fun and threaten. Now this isn't real life, its just a silly site, but if you act in the world anything like you have shown here, i pity the people close to you.

Posted by  TimothyStevenDowns  on 2009-10-15 03:13:48 
  
oooh paranoia creeping in there
i was blogging about my dear old grandma,
i am sure i have'nt a clue what you mean,
where did you get that idea from.
regards fraglerock
Posted by  fraglerock  on 2009-10-15 04:27:35 
  
http://timothydowns.stumbleupon.com/discoveries/
Posted by  Faolin  on 2009-10-15 04:54:41 
  
Lets say for the sake of saying - so what if he hits the refresh button? Is it that big a crime for someone to want to be on top?
Why does it bother YOU so bad if this guy did do it? Is it taking away from your readers? Is it causing you due harm to see this guy as holding the #1 spot? Or is it just that YOU want that spot and can't stand that someone else holds that "title"?
Posted by  Whitters  on 2009-10-14 12:46:43 
  

no but it is taking away from the spirit of the site, everyone is quick to judge me and jump on my back if i do anything wrong, and it makes me sick that this refreshing crap goes on, i have a little surprise coming timothy's way just to prove a point.
i know you are one of his friends and to look out for a friend is good and i admire your loyalty, but although i look out for many here, not many will look out for me, anly my closest friends do that because we know what goes on here.
take care
regards fraglerock
Posted by  fraglerock  on 2009-10-14 13:32:21 
  
I have no idea who this guy is... I just wanted to know is all.
Posted by  Whitters  on 2009-10-14 13:44:37 
  
hi, im Tim.
Posted by  TimothyStevenDowns  on 2009-10-15 03:14:19 
  
EVERYONE:

We do not permit any harassing or taunting of other members, whatsoever. The members who have participated in these prohibited actions should immediately stop doing this. It's all Love here so let's make sure to show respect and just agree to disagree. If at any time you feel as though something is inappropriate or not right, then please feel free to contact support or flag the material so that we may review the situation at hand.

Thank you all!
Thoughts Support =)
Posted by  thoughts_support  on 2009-10-14 15:53:30 
  
hear hear the voice of reason will always win in any arguement.
Posted by  fraglerock  on 2009-10-14 19:39:59 
  
I didnt think it would make many hits at all. I tried it. I was wrong. If one put the right tags on their stumble post it could get those numbers. I have no doubt.
Posted by  IrishMike6464  on 2009-10-15 01:23:24 
  
Yay Irish - I agree - with you also if Thoughts didn't want the Stumble application to be used along with thoughts.com they would never have put the button there - also it's good advertising for thoughts - I've "stumbled" accross alot of blogs here on thoughts - how i first came to know the site honestly :)
Posted by  Acinerov  on 2009-10-15 01:29:24 
  
Dude please just post the link so he can go away... Its even annoying me now!!
Posted by  Faolin  on 2009-10-15 03:08:54 
  
hehe. I see you did, anyway. :) Thanks.
Posted by  TimothyStevenDowns  on 2009-10-15 07:39:40 
  
I considered not posting it but I was annoyed.. Hope it was OK with you :-)

Would like to see that email tho!!
Posted by  Faolin  on 2009-10-15 08:45:59 
  
Alright all. I have just received a mail from Frag that i believe to be the end of the dispute. I don't think either of us was prepared to back down but i think we both wanted the silliness to end. I think we can finally call this matter closed and all breath a sigh of relief.

Hope everyone enjoyed the drama. :P
Posted by  TimothyStevenDowns  on 2009-10-15 07:43:42 
  
I'm Whitney - nice to meet ya too. Glad you and Frag came to some sort of conclusion.
What a headache.
Posted by  Whitters  on 2009-10-15 09:36:27 
  
well im pretty sure frag sounds like a young, teenage and possibly acne scarred socially inept high school reject who has nothing better to do then inbetween masturbating over porn and the premise of ACTUAL women then to spend alot of his time over this website, trolling people like you.

pay no attention to the dickhead :)
Posted by  godowar  on 2009-10-15 12:20:09 
  
You say masturbating over porn like it's a bad thing.

Kuddos for spelling masturbation correctly - it's a pet peeve of mine to see it misspelled.
Posted by  Whitters  on 2009-10-15 12:28:53 
  
Timothy..I just wanted to assure you I am in cahoots with no one. I wrote the Stumble Upon post that I wrote to help people understand what I found out about hits on this site coming from other sites. I did my little experiment on SU with little regard for how it would affect the people on that site, which I learned was selfish of me. I did not even know that you and Fraggle had an issue, as I stay away from drama whenever possible. I respect your opinion on personal blogs, and have no issues with you whatsoever. I think all of this wrangling over the stop spot is quite silly. Popularity is not a great big deal to me. I joined this site to read and learn about other people, not to argue over who pushed the refresh button, versus who might have gained their popularity from writing really good posts. I think sometimes people lose the spirit with which this site was created. There is room for everyone, and I am glad you are here. Keep on keeping on.

peace :) shemelts
Posted by  shemelts  on 2009-10-15 12:29:42 
  
Thats quite alright, it was a good read, well thought out and it struck right at the point.

I'm glad this is behind us now.
Posted by  TimothyStevenDowns  on 2009-10-15 13:14:23 
  
Meh!..Who cares?.

Do we make money from being on top like some Blogging whore?.

Personally I don't care where I sit in the charts, It amuses me to no ends though, maybe they ought to take the Top spots down that would solve Issues and stop me from laughing at all of this Tut tut...

No attack on you or Frag, just my humble opinion, I like you both and wish you well in your time here as superstars LOL:).x.

*Sara slopes off to write more Lame ass poems in hopes that she gets nice comments*
Posted by  Crimson_Read  on 2009-10-15 18:05:10 
  
That seems to be the general opinion of everyone.
Posted by  TimothyStevenDowns  on 2009-10-16 00:13:45 
  
Yes its sad that there is such controversy over it :(.

I used to write a blog called Top of the Pops, now its used as a slogan for the bloody thing, man do I regret writing it but I was new and just making observations.

No one cares, new people but find it amusing but the longer you are here the less it matters as we all know its pointless.
Posted by  Crimson_Read  on 2009-10-16 07:38:34 
  
I agree with Crimson_Read, I'm just happy to be here.
Posted by  karikaiba  on 2009-10-15 19:50:11 
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