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Pain/Evil and Pleasure/Good- both in your hands

Thinking upon subjects such as God we come to the arguments not that he doesn't exist, but if he does exist then surly he hates us because he created the devil and therefore directly or indirectly created everything bad in the world. However upon thinking about this you've got to think a little bit about the humans. If we really were created in his own image, then wouldn't that mean that he gets stressed? wouldn't that mean that he requires, food, drink, warmth and so on? If he really did exist then don't you think that although he created this world, then he would probably be an ordinary guy...becuase if we were created in our image then surly he must act like us.

This may be moving away from my point but if God really was like us wouldn't he sin. Would you even call it sin? now one of the questions that pops-up is why isn't the world perfect. Well I think that although the Lord could be perfect, good and evil do not exist. For example lets say that in the future the age age span of a human is a day. They are chopped up and eaten by the other humans. Now that to us seems evil right? however it would be all they've ever known and therefore would not be classed as evil. So good and Evil vary from situation to situation.

You may be thinking but Pain = evil and that pain is bad. However you should understand that every single sense in your body has a specif job. To send the message back to the brain (if we'd call a chemical change a message) telling you to act upon what ever is sensed. Therefore although you may feel somethings as feeling good and other as feeling bad know that both of those should work but because your brain has told that they are good or bad then you feel good or bad. So although you might think that you are feeling good you are not. Your brain has simply registered that chemical change or signal if you prefer as a good or bad feeling through lets say a percentage of both. Therefore can you really trust what your brain is registering things as.

A side note to this is: You do not know what Death is. Nobody could tell you for sure seeing as nobody has come back. Therefore you don't even know if that is a good thing.

Now with that in mind what controls your brain. Now I'm not going to go into the question of what a soul is (if one should exist) nor the structure behind the brain instead think about a baby. Now a baby often cries when being born. This does not happen always but it does on occasions- either one will do. What told the baby to register the sense being related to cry and 'bad', the babies brain. Now what developed the brain? well it comes down to the mother's and father's way of creating life. Therefore it is safe to say that it has been passed down. Therefore the route of evil must of lay back in evolution (if one should believe such). Cave man's leg got bit off, cave man can't hunt, cave man die, register bad feeling as leg being ripped off. So at the very basic level pain and evil, good and pleasure are set by humans. now if someone was built with out the sense of touch (there are more than one) and that person is lets say raped would that be a bad or evil thing? well this is where the second part of what describes these feelings.

You see because although the person couldn't feel anything, the person probably didn't want that to happen. Now the reason of why the person didn't want that to happen was probably because they didn't want the person to perform those actions and that the people/person doing the rapping wasn't complying with the wish of not performing those actions. Now what is the difference between having sex in a relationship and being raped. Well the answer is will. If the person wanted it to happen then it would all be fine, else it wouldn't be fine. What a person thinks is acceptable from anyone else in society is often set by society. We wouldn't exactly call it acceptable for a complete stranger to walk up and punch you. That is because somewhere along evolution that has been set as a bad pain and society as being a domino in that says it is also wrong. So this 'will' if you will was set either by you, or society and the good or bad feelings you get were set by evolution or at least your brain.

The brain can change. Society can change. Now you can do one of two things. Change you mind, opinions and acceptability to a larger amount of actions and social situations- which a lot of the more happy people in life do, or you can accept that your Brain has set good and bad things, and society has set the accepted and you therefore are to blame for ANY so called suffering in your life because you set that as Pain.

Posted by TheWhiteRings on 2009-07-25 12:00:00 | Rating:

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We live in a fallen world, a world full of wickedness and sin, when He comes back for His people, there will be no evil, no sin. All good things come from God.

God knew satan would rebel against Him, and even satan plays a part in God's plan.
While we do not know fully the plans God has for satan, that is for Him to know.

Stress actually is not normal, it was never in God's original creation. Stress has to do with worry and comes from living a life of independence of God. It is part of our fallen nature. When He comes, there will be no stress. Just like fear, people say fear is normal but it is not normal, it comes from the devil. When He comes back again, there will be no more fear.

When Jesus came down He came in the flesh, He had to eat and drink.

God is Spirit, He does not need to eat and drink.But when Jesus came down He was also flesh. Because that was what was needed to make that one time sacrifice for mankind.

People take the whole "created in His image out of context. God is not a human being He is God the creator of the Heavens and the earth. When He comes back We will be walking side by side with Him. If you take away our fallen nature and everything it has caused, you would see very similar characteristics between us and Him. In the end we will be conformed to the image of His Son. That is his plan.

God cannot sin, God is perfect. When Jesus came down in the flesh, He never sinned once.Before the fall of mankind, Adam and eve never sinned. But ever since the fall of mankind (In the garden of eden) Man had a sinful nature.

The world isnt perfect again because of the Fall of Man in the Garden of Eden. That is going to change when Jesus comes and establishes His kingdom here.

Anything that is against God and His commands is considered evil. There very much is evil and good.There is a war between them. and Christians are smack dab in the middle of the war.

While we do not know thoroughly what death, we know from what HE says about it, and what will happen for those who will continue to live a life of complete wickedness and reject His Gift of life.

I didn't want to go in depth of all your questions but I did answer a few :-)

Your questions are based on what man can understand, there is a lot that we do not understand fully.

God said that if we search for Him with all of our hearts we will find Him. If you decide to find Him I am sure He can help you understand.

Think about searching for Him, because you are very precious to Him.

Posted by James81 on 2009-07-25 12:25:37

The only real problem I have with the Bible (other than the straight forward contridictions) is why didn't he tell us the whole story?

Also why must he test us? why not just make us all perfect?

Also if this truly is his world then wouldn't you think that all the other religions would not only be wrong but also started from the insane?

I have a side theory that God was inventing the Radio when his angels were talking and acceidentaily stuck on 21st American Radio shows.

On a last note, thank you for commenting and I do know that it is a hard subject matter to answer because it is based on belief. However i'm probably never going to believe in the Bible because it doesn't know what it's trying to be, over 400 contradictions and i'm supposed to believe its all true? If you want an example read the first book of the bible and tell me, who came first man or woman because there are two stories one that says we all created at the same time and the other that said man came first.

oh and I have nothing against Christianity or any religion because at least they are trying to find belief- and it's nice to hear you have an IQ in double or triple figures unlike a lot of Christians I meet on-line.

Posted by TheWhiteRings on 2009-07-26 08:07:52

Its funny when people say the bible is full of "contradictions" while there has been a printing errors in the past that has caused them to do a call back on those bibles, God's Word is very real.

People read His Word without the Holy Spirit, they do not know things in context because they Spiritually cannot discern what God says in His Word.They do not fully understand what was happening in that time period. They read, but they do not have "ears to hear"

A person without the Holy Spirit will never be able to understand His Word in context, they can read it all they want.

Jesus said we will have trials and tribulations. God does test our heart and our faith. He does an amazing work in us that way.

My suffering that I have endured on this earth, God uses it everyday to shape my character, to bring Him closer, I learn patience and perseverance. God turns my suffering that I endure on earth and turns it for the best. Praise the Lord.

The "god" of this world is satan. satan took this world from adam and eve and Jesus is taking it back. This world you live in is filled with Spiritual forces you cannot understand friend.

There are many false religions, God isnt even about religion but that is what man turned it into..

About your last comment on contradictions. Again I tell you friend, you are reading it incorrect and without discernment.

You see alot of the unbelievers who make these websites labeled "bible contradictions" I have went through a quite a bit of these "so-called" contradictions and it is frightening on how wrong they twist things around and truly not understand it because they are spiritually discerned.

My advice to you is to seek Him out as I mentioned earlier, do not test Him as most people do.

Search for Him with all of your heart and He will make Himself known. Problem with this is, for those people who do genuinely seek Him, give up, they want God to reveal Himself in their time.

Diligently seek Him out friend. You and everyone else in this world has that choice. It is our God-given free will.

Blessings!

Posted by James81 on 2009-07-26 12:08:40

You are right that no one has come back and told me in person what goes on after death. So I dont know.

I have had personal expiernces with God that I didnt ask for though. This is why I believe.

Like you I have many issues with the bible. In the end it was wrote by man, then rewrote by man several times. Its a good starting point and the book as a whole is still getting the point across and will get you to heaven.

I am learning slowly about you that you think your being smart seperates you from the pack. Many smart people die alone, poor and thought of as crazy. Some times just watching what goes on around you then reacting is better than thinking you know the way before you start down a path.

Posted by IrishMike6464 on 2009-07-26 19:16:05

Like Mike, I am a believer but have serious issues with the bible and death.

I don't think I need to explain my thoughts on the bible. Mike said it all. But with death, I do have a problem. No one has come back to me either to tell me where they are. We dream things to say to others to make them feel better. I don't know where my parents are of my daughter. All I know is they still better be where I placed them. Until they tell me otherwise well........thats the end of that story.
Hey Mike, I'm not following you around. It just looks that way lol

Posted by kal on 2009-07-26 19:47:29