
Posted by
Plakola
on 2008-01-26 11:12:23 |
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That is true
most women except their man to change for them to show them that he loves her and would do anything for her, thats why women think like that. |
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Posted by
Sandiman
on 2008-01-27 01:11:56 |
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| OK but where is the LOGIC in that - why does a man need to change to show you that he loves you? ... if that was true the logic would be that the girl should change also to show the man that she love him - if you need to change someone or change yourself to be with someone that is not what i call 'Showing' love but submitting to it! following this logic after a few month you would both be different people to the ones you fell in love with. The relationship will then fall apart - all because you demanded change to show love! so i say again WHERE IS THE LOGIC? |
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Posted by
smileforthecamera
on 2008-01-27 23:02:24 |
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| Your right that those women really were not thinking straight but you have to understand not all of us are like that. Some of us do not fit into to the typical stereotype that youre talking about. If there is one thing to know about relationships, you can NOT change your partner. |
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Posted by
gtownmom
on 2008-01-28 03:14:16 |
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| Listen to what you are saying...you are using the words 'women' and 'logic' in the same sentence! That is like using the words 'men' and 'sensitive' at the same time. Just kidding. There is no logical way to explain how most women think when it comes to relationships. Insecure, needy women cling on to the first man that pays any attention to her then slowly try to turn him into her "perfect man". As you have noted, this never works. People can/do change their stripes but not for someone else. Healthy changes in one's personality or habits only work if the person is doing it for themselves. In our defense, let me just say that men do the same things to women. For instance...I hate to clean. I have always kept a nice house except for my bedroom. My guests have no reason to enter my room and I have no desire to put my dirty laundry in a hamper. I always have a mess on my nightstand and the only maintenance I do on my room is change the bed sheets every other day (can't stand the bed to be dirty) and usually dust and vacuum once a month or so. My room looks the same today as it did when I was a teenager. It's MY room as far as I am concerned. My boyfriend bitches about it all the time. I keep his side of the room clean (except for the dusting part) but my side is a war zone. I always tell him to think back to how my bedroom looked even the very first time he stayed the night....it was the same then as it is now. I know this is a small comparison compared to the dude that plays golf every Saturday, but it's really the same principle. If my messy bedroom was such an issue with him, why ask me to move in? I mean every time I mention his drinking to excess to him, he throws up the "where did you meet me?" card. Answer: in a bar. The only thing I bitch about now is when he drinks liquor because it turns him into a stark raving mad idiot. I have left him twice over this and will do so again if he ever returns to those ways. But I didn't tell him he had to change. He asked why I was leaving him and I told him. It was HIS decision to put down the bottle and stick to the beer only. But it took 4 months of spitting up blood every morning for him to realize that he needed to quit it. He didn't stop drinking it for ME, he did it for himself, which is why he hasn't returned to the habit. Anyhoo, to answer your question...there is NOT a Logical explanation for some people's behavior. I think the "change for me thing" is a control issue. Though I still don't see the LOGIC in it either. |
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Posted by
BootLady
on 2008-06-17 21:19:31 |
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First of all, expecting logic from a woman is, well, illogical. It's the nature of the beast, I'm sorry to say.
Secondly, I am definitely not an advocate of attempting to "change" someone. It never works. For this reason, I will always recommend (to anyone who happens to ask) that you find someone you can live with, NOT someone with POTENTIAL (Ack! Now there's an ugly word!).
Wake up people! There IS no Mr./Ms. Right, but if you're lucky, you'll find Mr./Ms. Close Enough. If you don't love someone just as they are, then move along...nothing to see here! Psst! It's not love if you find yourself saying things like "I love her, but..."
Great rant, Sandiman! |
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