I feel like I'm stuck in a bad soap opera.
After the shoot out last night and Miss 8 being upset and having another bad dream that her Dad and JS will keep her at his house, I get an email from FOTY.

Friday evening I sent him one asking if he'd go halves for the kids gymnastics, because it is damn expensive.

So I get the email today and it reads :-

'After what you did last night I am in no mood. However, because it is for the kids I will do it. So what do I owe - $201.00?'

Reading this I feel the blood rushing or is that gushing into my head, I feel my heart start pumping faster and faster.  I take a deep breath and I reply :-

'after what i did? What did i do??'

he just replies

'is my half $201.00'

I reply

'YES'

So I decide to ring him.... I get a luke warm reception and then ask him

"What'd I do?"

"I don't want to talk about it!"   he kurtly replies

"You don't want to talk about it?  Why?"

"Because I'm really angry at you at the moment."

So I calmly tell him that it was not wise of him to put JS on the phone last night and that is he aware that his Children are scared of him at the moment.

This gets his interest.  He asks me why the hell would they be scared of him. Implying that maybe I've had a hand in this ... I tell him that they are scared that he will force them to go with him, and that he will not let them leave.  I told him that I have spent time letting them know that there Dad loves them, and would not want them to be scared of him.  I tell him that Miss 8 is scared of JS making her stay there to live with them once they are married.

I tell him it makes me feel sick to the stomach that she feels this way, to which he re-butts (with a raised voice) that HE doesn't like it either.
Then I suggest that maybe he should talk to Miss 8 about visiting etc, not JS!  He claims he asked Miss 8 whether she wanted to talk to JS... and she said she didn't know and then relented and said Yes.

So again I ask him why is he angry at me?

He ignores my question and says "So who is the Father & Son team?"

"The WHAT?" I ask - I've got no idea what he is talking about.

He says, "You told JS that there was a Father and Son team contacting you!"

I am blown away by this comment - I have no idea what he's talking about - really!  All I told her was a guy from their work called me and told me they were engaged, and that if I didn't believe him, then to check out their face book profiles.

There is a stunned silence from me as I say "I have no idea what you are talking about."

He tells me that JS said I told her there was a Father and Son team that are contacting me, and the father doesn't approve of what he and her are doing, so the Son is ringing me up and telling me stuff....

I am still stunned, and repeat "I have no idea what you are talking about."
I ask him if he was in the room when I was talking to JS and he says "NO", I tell him maybe he needs to be from now on, as I did not say anything about this.

I also ask him why she would ask me TWICE if I would reconcile with him.
He doesn't have a reason.

So I also ask him why she would say the kids and I come first with him.
He doesn't answer.

I suggest that I understand why he would believe everything she says, but surely after all these years he should know that I am NOT A LIAR.

He sniggers and says something about playing games.

I ask him why would I bother starting to play games now, why wouldn't I have done that years ago, and why would I start lying to him.....

He then raises the point that when The Informer first told me about their affair, I told him it was a guy who was telling me, and then later admitted it was the girl it was.

I scoff and ask if I've lied to him any other time - to which I haven't - I'm too bloody honest!
I suggest he get to know JS a bit better - and sure he is going to marry her - but she has MADE UP this stuff about the FATHER SON team.

I ask him what else she has said, because now I'm wondering how much more she's fabricated... and I'm so tempted to call her and ask her "WHAT THE....??" with the father son thing.

But I won't because I can see she will use it against me - obviously she sees me as a threat.

I'll bet they had a fight last night, and I"m wondering if he came clean and admitted he was sleeping with both of us, which "factually" shouldn't matter since he reckons they only officially got together in November.

And I'm wondering if she came clean and admitted that she DID smoke on occassions..... I'm thinking not.

It appears her engagement ring is HUGE and would be worth a FORTUNE - so I'm tipping he's got too much invested to let the truth get in the way.

MY CONCLUSION they deserve each other - Both Liars, Both insecure, Both Self-centred, Both care only about their outward appearances.... Match made in Heaven,  actually a match made in hell ...

I know I have to tread lightly and let him think I'm supporting him on the kids issue - because otherwise he'll start playing dirty.... dirtier and the kids will become involved.!  That is not something I want to happen.
They are not pawns in all this, and they will NOT start being pawns...

Infact got some good advice from "a friend" and it goes something like this  (EXCELLENT advice) :-