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Rebutle to an Angry Brother

I happened upon a post today that distrubed me greatly. Here it is here

And here you will find my rebuttle:

Well, there's a few things I feel are quite wrong with your post. Firstly, allow me to say that I can understand your frustration. It's irritating to look out on the world and see the state that it's become.

But you need to get a few facts straight first. Fine if you don't agree with women being pastors. But there is a difference between being a pastor and being a leader in the church. For an example, look at the story of the Christ's Resurrection. He appeared to Mary of Magadala first. Not to Peter, to whom he said he would build the church upon.

Next, I am pro-life, and if my daughter get's pregnant that's between her and God. (I don't have one yet, though I want one)

But, in my elections here in Canada, I still vote on the left side of the spectrum. I don't think abortion is the place of the politicians. It's between a woman, her doctor, her conience and whatever personal God she believes in.

Also, the lady who spoke at the church is correct. God's army will lead his people to victory over sin, and death and Hell. It happened on the Cross. i.e. "It is finished." You have to take into account that God exists outside a time line. He exists in all three states, Past, Present and Future. That's why the Greek Orthodox thank God for the brith, death, ressurection and second coming of Christ all in the past tense.

Also, you're being a tad luricrious. My prices are as high as anyone in America's right now. They're even higher in Britin. Your gas prices are too high? Mine are too. Your food is too expensive? Mine is too. But you're saying that this is the work of a vengeful and wrathful God. Which, quite simply isn't true.

God is a God of mercy. It doesn't make him angry when we sin. It hurts him, deeply, because it drives us further from him. It saddened him so much that he sent His Son to die.

This is proven in many ways, but here are two examples:

Jesus as the fulfillment of the law: Matthew 5:17 ""Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

And Colassians 2:14 "having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross."

Next is Jesus as the intervener between ourselves and God. God's wrath HAD to be poured out. But Isaih says "But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed." This means that those who trust in God, need not fear that wrath. So, to say that America is being punished for the way some people act is insane.

Jesus did what he did to save those who were willing to follow him, and to give those who were unsure time to choose him before the Final War.

As to the using "Oh my God" in movies, and that I'm funding blasphamey by seeing those movies? Well, I have no biblical way to reject that. I don't agree with people saying "Oh my God," or people saying "Jesus Christ." But you know what?

Not going to see that movie isn't going to prevent it from being said. It's not affecting me, or my actions by someone else saying it, and I can only be responsible for myself.

I've never felt convicted by God to leave a theatre because someone said "Oh my God." I've felt convicted to leave because of excessive violence, gratouitous sex, and extreme language. It's odd that you wouldn't mention those.

As to your claim that a chruch has too much money....well, my church just did renovations. We essentially rebuilt the entire inside of the church. We also fund missionaries at native reserves north of here, Hondouras, China, Tibet, the Ivory Coast, Egypt...and several other countries.

Why is it wrong for a church to have a gymnasium for children to play in? Are you that angry that you can't see the benefit of that?

Example: My former church had no Gym. We built one to house areas for church meals, the ALPHA program (young-adult outreach), and even VBS. And, by the way, the first VBS saw anywhere from 3-5 families in the area saved.

My current church bought ballhockey equipment. Nets, sticks, balls etc. To get the kinds in the area exposed to our Faith. I'd hardly call that a waste of money.

The older folks in my church constantly give more than the 10% asked for by God in tithe. And they give it DIRECTLY to the Youth Pator and tell him "here, this for our kids. Take them somewhere for a weekend where they can learn more, and have fun."

Back to the lady at the church you dislike. For the record, I'll state again, she's right. What she's saying isn't prophecy of her own. It's God's prophecy. Read revelation. If that's not God's victory over sin, death, hell, demons and giving us his lasting, eternal blessing, than nothing is.

There's nothing wrong with crying, and out pouring to God. Infact, the Bible states that when we are lost for words, the Holy Spirit will intervene for us.

Job tore his robe, let out a loud wail and worshiped when his children died.

There is nothing wrong with laughter in the church, or celebration. If you think I'm wrong, look at King David in 2nd Samuel.

"It was before the LORD, who chose me rather than your father or anyone from his house when he appointed me ruler over the LORD's people Israel—I will celebrate before the LORD. I will become even more undignified than this, and I will be humiliated in my own eyes."

I say let loose! Raise a glorious cheer and shout before the Lord. Dance, sing, celebrate, praise, proclaim, bow down, worship, prance, skip, LAUGH OUT LOUD! God has won the vicotry, we are FREE.

Do you understand that brother? WE'RE FREE TO BE LIKE THIS! God did the impossible We couldn't do it. Jesus intervened. He chose Mary to proclaim that he had risen! He sent Paul to the Gentiles (of which you are one, btw) He set David's heart to cheer and dancing.

What you are is angry for something that I cannot comprehend, and I will not allow it to interfere with my worship of His most HOLY name.

You have judged, when it is not your place to judge. It is one thing to rebuke a fellow Christian and say "You need to understand something, here, look at what God says."

It's another thing entirely to say "You! You're wrong, and it's because of you all this has happened."

Do I think that our actions are without consequence? NO! But that is the beauty of God's ultimate plan! I'm saved! I'm under the blood of Jesus himself!

Do you understand how that makes me feel! I'm excited just typing this. I love it when I feel this way, to know that I'm loved by God. I've felt so overwhelmed by him, even during my alone time with him, that I've wept for my sin, and wept for my greatfulness at his touch.

He is MY strong Father. MY personal God. He loves me. That....the right there is the amazing truth. He is a God of love. Not a God of Fury. Certainly he has been and will be. But it is perfect, just, righteous fury. And it's not something he does out of malic. He rebukes as a Father rebukes.

And now, as a Brother whom I love in Christ, I rebuke you, and ask you to examine how you approach a situation. Instead of doing with with righteous fury, do it with a righteous love.

Not everyone is going to worship as you do. But worship is worship. If it's with cymbols, tamberines, trumpets, voices, feet, hands, song, guitars, drums. Our unquenchable woriship is pleasing to the ears of God.

God Bless you, Brother. For I feel that you are a Brother in Christ. In the adapted words of Paul. Stay strong, finish the race and keep the Faith. And I have no doubt you will. Dispite the anger you have, I sense a strong heart, willing to serve, and loving God with all it's strength.

May the Lord keep you.