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 Outraged and Disgusted

 

I can't even believe I am writing a blog post about this subject... Truthfully...

I am just totally disgusted and outraged by the way some people act in society as a whole.

I know that there are so many blogger's out there who are fake, or just trying to start drama, or looking for sympathy, etc...etc...

As I have said before, I am NOT a confrontational person in the least, but I just vented on someone's blog, because personally, it made me sick. It angered me. I know, I should have just done like I've done so many times before and just closed the page and went about my business as usual.

I was perusing the 'new' blogs and noticed one that a woman had written about her husband cheating on her and it had pictures of the proof along with some emails she had found. I felt really bad for her. She is a wife and a mother, she is a human being with a heart that bleeds and feels. Plus, there is also child involved here! So, I left my comment for her and went on to read other blog posts.

Shortly afterwards, I am again perusing the 'new' blogs and I come across a 'new' member to thoughts.com. She goes by: Cunning_Mistress. So, out of curiousity, I read her two blogs. Strange, that I had just commented on a blog post of a similar nature. So in her posts, 'Cunning_Mistress' talks about her situation with a married man who also has a child and how she's in love with him. She writes these blogs to the WIFE of her lover and posts them on a public blogging site.

Now mind you, I'm no marriage counselor or psychiatrist... but I do know when I see, read or feel something that is just totally dispicable and morally reprehensible.  I am naturally appauled, thus I feel compelled to speak my mind. After all, this is a free country.

What is it with people today? You go and cheat on your spouse with another married person or your a single person and you're in a relationship with a married man, fully knowing he's married and there are children involved. At what point do you draw the line in the sand? At what point do you think to yourself, 'this is really wrong of me and I shouldn't do this?' At what point do you say, 'there are innocent children involved here?'  Then to post a blog to your lover's wife on a public forum? Are you hoping she will read it? Are you just venting? Are you just writing it because you actually feel guilty? If so, why not keep it private? What do you gain by posting this for the public? Does it give you power? Does it give you relief? Are you hoping to cause utter pain and shame to the innocent party? Please, do tell...

I honestly feel very sorry for anyone who is the victim of such an atrocity. I truly feel for you. Like I said, and I am shocked that I am even writing this blog post, because I am not a confrontational person, I am a very quiet and private person... but this just makes me sick! What ever happened to morals, marriage vows, loyalty, honesty and integrity? 
I would really like to know this. 

We live in such a world full of everything BUT these things anymore! It's truly a frightening scenario as far as the future is concerned. It's already going to be tough enough for the children who are going to inherit some of this country's greatest debt's. But, then they get to witness infidelity at it's finest.  Then, these children grow up thinking it's okay to cheat on their girlfriends/boyfriends and spouses because they see it going on right in front of them, they've lived it. It's learned behavior. Children learn by example. They mock what they see and hear. Now sadly, they may very well grow up to repeat the same behavior's as the unfaithful parent.

Children are pure and innocent from the day they are born. It's not right for a child to even be put into such a situation (speaking of the guilty parties, of course). Parents hold the very mold that defines who their child will become. These children should never have to feel guilty or ashamed for what has transpired between their parents. (I mean that in the sense that they should never be exposed to any of it purposely). I know they can't be completely safe from every single, painful facet of it at any given moment, but I think you understand what I am trying to say. I do realize that every marriage has it's moments, it's faults, but we as adults, have the CHOICE whether to make them a part of it or not. Parents don't have the right to bring such pain, confusion and guilt upon a child. You are the very person who will break that child's spirit, forever... Yes, children are very resilient... to a point, but they also aren't built with an internal protection shield. They automatically assume that the reason their parents are getting a divorce is because of something they may have done. They are scarred, confused, and suffering in silent pain. They don't know how to process it. They don't know what to do with it. 

Anyway.... I am getting far too deep into this and maybe I shouldn't. It's not for me to be the Judge, Jury and Executioner. I'm sorry if this offends anyone. It's not intended to at all. I just can't help the way that I feel. There are right ways and wrong ways of dealing with certain issues and posting things on the internet to purposely harm or shame someone is just wrong on so many levels. I'm not speaking of the emails and pictures that were posted in the first blog I read, i.e., the proof of her husbands infidelity, etc. I'm talking about putting out the types of blogs that this 'Mistress' person posted.

You really have to feel sorry for the unsuspecting party out there. The one who has NO idea that their entire personal family business/dirty laundry is being exposed to the public without their knowledge. How humiliating is that? I mean really... have some class! Have some respect. Have some decency and compassion in your heart for once and stop thinking about the sex that you're having with that married person. What about your reputation? What about your family?

Is it really worth it? Think about that...

 ~ Mikaila

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While looking for an appropriate picture after writing my blog post, I came across this topic. I hope it's helpful to anyone going through this...

Infidelity:
The Lessons Children Learn
by Jennifer Harley Chalmers, Ph.D.



When a parent has an affair what lessons are being taught to the children? What rules of life are being learned?

Julie was a happy-go-lucky eight-year old. She was at the top of her 3rd grade class, loved playing with her friends, riding her bike, and drawing. Her parents loved her and she loved them.

One day after school mom introduced Julie to two girls who were close to Julie's age. Mom said that she was taking care of them for a friend named Josh. Julie enjoyed playing with the girls and looked forward to them coming again.

In fact they would come over quite often with their dad. But it was only when Julie's dad was out of town. Sometimes Josh stayed late -- long after Julie had gone to sleep.

One day dad came home from his trip. As he was hugging Julie he asked, "How is my princess? What did you do while I was away?" Julie started telling him about the new puppy that "Uncle Josh" brought to the house. Dad knew that mom had been helping someone with child care, but when he heard it was "Uncle Josh" he became a little suspicious.

"How often do you see Uncle Josh?" he asked. With a smile Julie said, "Oh, he comes over every day to help mom when you're gone." Mom looked at Julie with a stern face. But Julie didn't understand why she was becoming upset. Her dad started asking her mom questions and their voices became louder and louder. Julie was sent to her room.

As Julie listened outside, her door she heard her mom say, "Josh is just a friend. Aren't I allowed to have friends. Why do you have to be so jealous? Don't you trust me?" Julie finally heard her mom say that she would never see Josh again if that's what her dad really wanted.

After a couple days, mom and dad started talking to each other and mom and dad seemed happy again. They all returned to their routine of life and Julie started to forget about that horrible night.

But the next time dad went on a trip, mom did not keep her promise. She told Julie that the babysitter will be taking care of her that night. But mom wouldn't tell Julie where she was going. As mom left the house she saw Josh help mom into his car. "Why is mom seeing Josh when she promised never to see him again?" Julie asked herself.

When dad returned, mom lied to him. When he asked her if she had seen Josh while he was gone she said, "No." But dad pursued the subject and continued to ask her what she did. Finally she said, "I can't take this invasion of privacy" and that her life was "none of his business." She got up, started to pack her suitcase and gave Julie a kiss with the promise to see her tomorrow. She left that night leaving Julie feeling abandoned by her mother.

Julie didn't understand what had happened. She thought it was her fault -- maybe she had done something to make mom leave and cause this terrible punishment. She cried inconsolably. Dad tried to soothe Julie but nothing helped. She cried herself to sleep.

The next morning Julie went to school but did not say a word. Her teacher asked what was wrong, but Julie wouldn't respond. Her eyes just filled with tears.

When Julie saw her mom she cried and pleaded for her to come home. Julie promised to clean her room every day and wash and dry the dishes. But nothing worked. Mom didn't come home.

After a month mom changed her mind. Julie was so excited when she heard the good news. But her happiness turned to despair when she was told that her mom had forced her dad to move away so she could come home.

Julie had come to trust and depend on her dad in the last month and appreciated him more than she ever had in the past. Now she was about to lose a parent she loved and trusted all over again.

These experiences were only the beginning for Julie. In the months to come mom and dad would unknowingly teach Julie more lessons about life.

Children learn from their parents. In fact parents are the most influential guides in a child's life. Many will see their mannerisms and phrases being used by their child. But parents are more than models for mannerisms and phrases. They are models for crucial aspects of life: a work ethic, intimate relationships, friendships, domestic skills, communication, and problem-solving skills. Lessons about life are being taught when a parent has an affair -- lessons that they usually don't want their child to learn.

The first lesson a child learns is,

How to deal with emotional pain.
Children whose parents are experiencing marital conflict feel many emotions -- guilt, confusion, loneliness, sadness, fear, worry, abandonment, and many other excruciating feelings. When a child is losing the security base of a strong marriage they are bombarded with pain.

So how is a child supposed to soothe their pain and the feeling of helplessness? And how does a child gain control in an uncontrollable situation? Out of the need to defend against these uncomfortable feelings comes a new rule about life --

If a problem arises it is better to deny that there is a problem than to face it and feel the pain.
Julie came to believe this rule. She would think,

"This is how married people lived. Nothing was wrong about this situation. There really isn't a problem here. Just look the other way."
A child can defend themselves from the bombardment of emotional pain through the defenses of denial and justification.

But this new rule did not help teach Julie how to solve crucial problems that would face her later in life. Instead of facing and solving those problems, she would deny their very existence and look the other way as it would grow and eventually overwhelm her.

Julie was also being taught a second lesson,

How to lie.
In order to maintain a secret second life, wayward spouses need to keep up the deceit. After Julie started living with her mom, she was asked not to talk to dad about Josh. She was further instructed to tell dad that she hadn't seen him. Mom explained that it is better that dad just doesn't know "because we don't want to make him upset." Julie remembered how upset dad was when he found out about Josh. She didn't want him to get angry at mom. So with this newly learned habit of lying for mom, came a second rule about life --

Lying is allowed if it spares another from pain or spares yourself from punishment.
Another rule from this lesson on deceit is that

Lying is allowed when it protects your privacy. Everyone has a right to privacy in their life, even if it involves hurting people behind their back.
Julie was told over and over that it was not dad's business to know what mom does. This was meant to justify the fact that mom was lying to dad. Although Julie's mom was a very honest and open person before the affair, mom became quite an expert at deceit and privacy. Julie was watching her model every step of the way.

A third crucial lesson is,

How to be thoughtless -- doing what you please regardless of how it affects other people.
Julie would learn how to take advantage of her friends and family when there was something in it for her. She would learn how to disregard others' suffering because she had a right to enjoy life to the fullest. All wayward spouses hurt the people they care about the most. Wayward spouses rationalize that they had to look out for themselves which is why they developed the relationship outside of their marriage in the first place. Their actions seem to benefit themselves in the short term, but it has disastrous effects on members of their family.

Marital discord is hard enough on children. It undermines the basic security needed for them to learn and grow. But to add infidelity to a troubled marriage turns a problem into a disaster. Parents who have an affair are teaching their children very important rules that are likely to be followed for the rest of their lives. It ultimately not only undermines their marital relationships but it also seriously hurts their own chances for success in most other areas of life.

Parents have a responsibility to teach their children the importance of honesty and the importance of thoughtfulness -- considering other people's feeling when decisions are being made. To do otherwise is not only terribly irresponsible, but may tend to perpetuate the learning of these rules of deceit and thoughtlessness for generations to come.

But even after the mistake of an affair, it is possible to make a conscious choice to change the disastrous consequences. I have counseled many parents who could see what they were teaching their children by having an affair. It motivated them to end the affair and explain to their children how wrong they had been. Although it was extremely difficult and very humbling, they were not only able to save their marriage, but also able to correct the lessons they had taught their children.

They followed a step-by-step guide that is now available in the book I wrote with Dr. Harley, "Surviving an Affair" (Harley/Chalmers, Revell, 1998). They first took extraordinary precautions to separate from their lover. Then, with their spouse, they followed the Four Rules that Guide Marital Recovery. As they followed this plan and modeled new behaviors they started to teach new lessons:

How to solve conflict through negotiation;

How to be open and honest about every part of life;

How to protect their spouse from their own thoughtless behaviors; and

How to be an expert at caring for their spouse.
A person involved in an affair, whether is it secret or not, must take a hard look at the messages they are sending their children. Are they s eeing mom and dad living secret lives where privacy and lying are the norm, making choices that are thoughtless to their spouse, and accepting infidelity because it looks out for #1? Or are they seeing mom and dad spending time to love and care for each other, protecting each other from painful behaviors, being honest, working out conflicts together, and modeling faithfulness because it protects loved ones?

What lessons are you teaching your children? Are you protecting your marriage from infidelity? Are you making sure that your children will not learn the unwanted lessons of denial, deceit, and disregard for others?

Children can learn unwanted lessons from an unfaithful parent. But these lessons can be changed. A wayward spouse can decide to model new behaviors and teach new lessons. Think about it -- it could be the greatest gift you will ever give to your children.


Dr. Chalmers is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist and the co-author of "Surviving an Affair" (Harley/Chalmers, Revell, 1998). 

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8112_lesson.html 

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Thank you Scentzz,

I was just wondering if I should delete this or not. But... I think not.

~ Mikaila
Posted by  40rget_me  on 2009-08-04 22:36:36 
  
{{1,000,000 *hugsies* to you as well}}

~ Mikaila
Posted by  40rget_me  on 2009-08-05 01:08:55 
  
Dearest Mikaila ~

There is a ton of stuff to be commented on within this post albeit I understand that your biggest concern was with infidelity and exposing such on the internet all with child involved.

I am certain this strikes close to many Hearts right here on this site. Many just do not want to talk about it or cannot talk about it.

As I type this commented I am wondering if I should even begin a short series of posts that could be at least read and used by a few who are 'in such situations' as you describe above. ~ sighs ~ Years ago I found myself leaving a profession I Loved becuz I was so burned out with the number of Families I was working with where the children were so helpless. (In fact I lasted longer in that work than most who work with Families where not only is there serious relationship problems but also serious abuse ~ physical, emotional and sexual.) I will think on whether to start such a series of help articles ~ it is my belief that a serious commitment to doing the entire series would be needed.

Mikaila ~ people DO learn how to be parents from their parents in our society. What this means is that parenting is not given as much attention as history lessons and reading lessons. Seriously when was the last time most people found themselves in a parenting class BEFORE even conceiving children? Now couple NO Parenting Classes with NO marriage/commitment classes ~ throw a huge fancy party with cake and booze ~ and you get the least experts in child rearing. Children are getting married!! They are having children when they are but children in their Hearts and in their minds. People have NO CLUE!! But they sure enuff have a clue on how to fornicate with one another..... and IF .... OH Me Gudness I am preganant ~ shall I have a party with cake and booze... hell yeah!! (Kinda is a sad state of affairs how partys are thrown before an 'little instruction books' are even thought of!!

The bottom line is that infidelity among many other nasty thingies are going to be exposed to even the youngest Souls on this Earth and even the idea of providing coping skills will not be considered but rather dismissed with ~ oh we do not expect much out of them afetr all look where they came from ... a broken marriage, a marriage of one parent always straying, a marriage that never happened, etc etc to infinity!! Now THAT is what I find MOST disgusting is how the entire SOCIETY disregards teaching the most basic of basics ~ commitment relationships, parenting skills, coping in any adversity.

~ sighs ~

I fear I have taken over your bloggie post and for that I am sorry Mikaila.

Sadly this post only opens many many more questions and few answers on dealing with all of the issues raised here. BUT ~ make NO mistake ~ this post was meant to be right here Dear Mikaila ~ in fact it needs to be right here!! Good for you listening to your instinct to post on this.

HUGS

~ Ek is Lief vir Jou~
Posted by  UniversalSeductress  on 2009-08-05 08:11:38 
  
Hi,

Thank you so much for commenting and sharing your thoughts. With your experience, you would be a wonderful source of information and support for those in need. I say, 'Most Definately!' I know this post didn't receive many readers or comments, but like you said, I was only 'listening to my instincts' and I just felt so horrible for the wife who was on the receiving end of that blog post. I did contemplate deleting the post, but was told to leave it up. If it helps just one person, that is good enough for me. *blessings*

~ Mikaila
Posted by  40rget_me  on 2009-08-08 18:07:01 
  
Mikaila ~

I decided that this post you have done is so important to those who may read me that I have added a link to your post here in my Being a Mother post. Your post opens a very important dialogue for others I believe. I hope you will not mind ~ really I do ~ and I know I should have asked you first quietly ~ but circumstances are such that my time is extremely limited this morning and I felt THIS was an important post.

Take such special care Dear One.

I will check back here late this afternoon and am willing to help in the dialogue here at that time.

HUGS

~ Ek is Lief vir Jou ~

Kate
Posted by  UniversalSeductress  on 2009-08-05 08:27:11 
  
Sure Kate!

No, I am not upset at all about you posting a link to this blog post. It's just not getting many interested readers. Do feel free to check back and comment as you like. *smiles*
Posted by  40rget_me  on 2009-08-08 18:09:33 
  
My dad cheated on my mom when I was a kid, while she was pregnant with their 2nd child. I felt alot like they describe in that article only thankfully I had enough coping skills and sense to know that what he did is not a normal healthy marriage and just plain wrong. I value loyalty highest above all things because of this. I cannot tolerate cheaters AT ALL. I really cant even tolerate people that sleep around.
Posted by  AaronJ80  on 2009-08-05 11:15:46 
  
Hi Aaron,

I'm so glad that you stopped by and commented. I am also sorry that you had to endure the pain of infidelity in your home life. That must have been very difficult for your Mother, especially during a pregnancy. What a blessing that you were able to cope with it all at such a young and tender age. We do learn valuable lessons from other people's pain, as sad as that sounds. *blessings*

~ Mikaila
Posted by  40rget_me  on 2009-08-08 18:12:24 
  
I agree coming here to just stir trouble and bad karma for another poor soul is unacceptable on every level and that persons account should be deleted I have been the victim of this also, my advice to the poor woman is to ignore her because its fulling a fire but you my dear are AWESOME and I think alot of you for doing this shows great character :)..

Love to you sweetie :).x...Sarafeline.x.
Posted by  jezzabelle  on 2009-08-05 19:13:36 
  
Thank you so much jezzabelle,

I really wanted to just keep my feelings to myself on this matter, but part of my being here is so that I may open up and express myself better. This is something I've had a very difficult time with for many year's. I'm sorry to hear that you were put through the same pain and heartache. I just can't wrap my mind around why people do some of the things they do. I guess we'll never really know. All we can do is learn from other's and not cause the people that we love, the same kind of pain. I appreciate your comment about 'character' as well. You're very kind. *smiles*

~ Mikaila
Posted by  40rget_me  on 2009-08-08 18:17:07 
  
Coming in late, but I did respond to this "mistress" person, seems funny she wrote all this after responding to my cheating husband post

The girl that my husband is in love with totally denied knowing he was married, denied the fact they had a relationship, denied saying she had no idea I was having problems in my marriage, just denied everything!!

And to boot, there was money involved, the money he spent on her took away from my childs mouth, took away paying our bills on time, she took away a lot from ME & my son

This has totally destroyed me
Posted by  Pinkkitty  on 2009-08-07 11:43:15 
  
Hi Lindy,

I thought it was rather odd myself. I thought for a second after reading it, 'what if it was the woman your husband was seeing just posting a wild story to ruffle your feathers?' I know that sounds totally ridiculous, but it was just a fleeting thought. *lol*

Yes, 'denial' is a large factor of 'deception' in many types of issues like this one as well as addiction's. The sad thing in your situation and so many like it, is that when children are involved, they are always the innocent victim's. Why doesn't the person doing the cheating ever stop to consider their child's feeling's? It's mind-boggling!

I'm sure this has destroyed you. I wish there was something I could say or do to bring you some comfort in your time of need. You are in my thoughts and I am here if you ever need someone to vent to. *hugs*

I noticed that she posted a 3rd blog post on her 'affair' and it has me wondering if she's going to chronicle her entire experience about it here? *sigh*
She doesn't answer anyone's comments either, not that I want her to answer mine. *lol*

~ Mikaila
Posted by  40rget_me  on 2009-08-08 18:27:34 
  
"Then to post a blog to your lover's wife on a public forum? Are you hoping she will read it? Are you just venting? Are you just writing it because you actually feel guilty? If so, why not keep it private? What do you gain by posting this for the public? Does it give you power? Does it give you relief? Are you hoping to cause utter pain and shame to the innocent party? Please, do tell..."

His wife will never read any of this (not a computer person), nor will her identity ever be threatened (names and locations are all fictive). The letters addressed to her are merely a narrative form I chose to write in.

There are so many blogs out there about cheating husbands written by wives that were cheated on. If my blogs as a "mistress" are offensive to some, it still may be interesting and constructive to find out the third party's POV, if not to better comprehend the mechanics of the love triangle and maybe even prevent some from being in one.

To the very least, I'm offering quite an entertaining read.
Posted by  cunning_mistress  on 2009-09-01 10:44:55 
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